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Apr-26-2017 @ 7:37 PM                           Permalink
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To my mind one of the very major issues is that while everyone involved were totally up-front about their personal/special interests. They were still voting and/or making decisions that had a financial interest in their relationship with the BA.

There is a reason as to why insider trading is illegal.

Anyone having a financial interest in decisions made by the BA or Nav Com should not vote.

It's like caesar's wife.

When you guys appear to be not doing things right, and I'm not going to suggest anything corrupt, but the trust and respect from the Stakeholders will not happen when voting members can get a financial gain.

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Apr-26-2017 @ 7:52 PM                           Permalink
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There are both winners and losers cost wise in the new system. Unfortunately for the BA the winners will sit quietly and the losers will create a fuss. No issues there as both stances are reasonable and normal.
However, for balance, there are plenty who think that the new arrangements right a previous wrong and that their tolls were previously inflated.
A difficult judgement call to make. It is impossible to please everyone. The correct process was followed so however this affected individuals we just have to accept it.
Let us not forget this was not a cash grab (other than the reasonable 3% general increase). The BA end up with pretty much the same toll revenue.

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Apr-26-2017 @ 7:58 PM                           Permalink
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Brian,
The purpose of the Navigation Committee is to represent the different interests who use the waterways. Based on the Authority’s previous survey experience asking all 10,000 toll payers whether small boats should pay less and large boats more would have predictably given a polarised set of responses which would not have helped the Authority’s members in their decision making.

Richard
The structure of the Navigation Committee is such that the different interested groups are present – both hire operators, private owners and other users of the waterways. They are given dispensation to participate in the debate on the setting of tolls. If this were not the case then almost all of the Committee would not be able to engage in the debate.


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John

You still havn`t answered my question, given that a consensus of opinion across the forums and user groups shows a majority lack of confidence and trust in the executive how do you propose  rectifying that.

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Apr-26-2017 @ 8:12 PM                           Permalink
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Harlequin, I'm not suggesting in any way that this was a cash grab. The BA need the money, and probably a lot more post Brexit. I just want it to be done and seen to be done in an equitable and fair manor.

John, I totally agree with you that we need the HBO's and business owners to be part of the debate. That's not the issue.

Voting when there is a financial gain IS.

Debate and decision making two totally different things, or do you not agree?

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Apr-26-2017 @ 8:15 PM                           Permalink
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Without any knowledge whatsoever I'm guessing harlequin your tolls have come down hence your remarks had they gone up as significantly as some have I doubt you would be of the same opinion .

Richard

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Dear Brian,

The most reliable poll of private boat owners is the survey by Insight Track in November 2014.

This statistically significant response showed that only 16% of private boat owners were dissatisfied with the performance of the Broads Authority.

John


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Apr-26-2017 @ 8:22 PM                           Permalink
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John,

I'm not a gambling man, but I bet it you rerun that same survey it would be a significantly higher figure now!!!!

Just because The BA make a request, don't automatically assume they have the powers to make such requests!! Keeping a careful eye on an Authority which is making it's own rules.

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Is it just me our did others see the way a certain Richardson's rep and nav committee member steered the discussions especially regarding hire boats and had the nerve to suggest that BA at toll payers expense extended the amount of electric posts to accommodate the hire fleet's .

Richard

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I do not think 16 per cent of private boat owners not being satisfied with BA's performance should be a cause of satisfaction especially at a time when there were fewer or no exceptional decisions being made.

tony b

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John

Given that survey was only representative of a small number of toll payers, the breakdown of the various sectors of toll payer and the loaded questions I don't place any credence on the results at all.

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