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RayT
Jan-01-2021 @ 3:36 PM                           Permalink
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Hi and a Happy New Year to you All,

Just read the Jan issue of Motorboat Owner mag. and there is an article about the EA contracting a car parking firm, District Enforcement Ltd. to manage the free 24hr moorings on the Thames and collect fees from people staying longer. Interesting.
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Why is it interesting to a forum about the Norfolk Broads? That firm has been managing moorings sites, mainly on the Thames for years, not just for the EA but for CaRT and owners of private moorings https://where2moor.co.uk/moorings/

Now if you had said that the Broads No-Authority were interested in handing over management of their moorings to that company, THAT would be interesting. Particularly after the debacle and bad publicity generated by the private parking company they engaged at Whitlingham.

"..for the avoidance of any doubt, the broads are not legally a national park and do not come under the national park legislation, and nor will they."
Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State for DEFRA (Hansard 2015)

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Hi Ray

I do think it is an interesting possibility bearing in mind the amount of angst overstaying raises  on this forum.

Not sure the revenue chasing tactics of the parking companies would go down well on the Broads for a few minute overstay .

However  It would definitely be a way of tackling  long term or persistent  abuse which many would be in favour of .

Not sure it could be used here though  as I always thought the parking companies could only operate their Draconian money raising systems on privately owned land.

Graham

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Jan-01-2021 @ 6:41 PM                           Permalink
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My guess is that it is of interest to Broads users because if the BNA were to engage this type of business to patrol BNA moorings, it would be another deterent to holiday makers, equal to the National Park lie.

In the current climate the Broads does not need something  else that will put off visitors. I do not like overstayers but I dislike this kind of enforcement even more.

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Where do they fit the wheel clamp?

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Jan-02-2021 @ 11:27 AM                           Permalink
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After many years of using my trailered boat on the Thames I have not been there for over two years now because of all the faf regarding moorings. Also I had an accident on a slime covered staircase on an unmanned lock which finally put the nail in the coffin. It nearly put nails in my coffin!

The situation is that the Thames is being plagued by liveaboards. I am not against liveaboards and have met many excellent liveaboard people in my travels over the years. As long as they abide by the rules I have no argument with them.

The problem is that there are quite a number of scruffs who overstay at the official moorings, leaving rubbish and dragging down the moorings with their scruffy dirty boats. Now you have to contact the EA when you arrive and give your details about how long you are staying. If you stay longer then a charge is sent to your registered address.

The liveaboards started using wild moorings and abusing them so the landowners sold off the wild moorings to an enforcement company so even if you moor there for less than five minutes you can get a £100 charge. This has spoilt it for the many responsible boaters who respect the countryside, stay a day or two and move on, leaving the banks as they found them.

In Reading you can be charged about £9.50 at last look for just tying up to do a bit of shopping at Tesco on Thames and getting a drop of petrol.

In all, mooring problems, frequently unmanned locks, filthy slimy staircases with slimy handrails Has put me off a beautiful river which I had loved in the past.




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Hi Wanderer

Maybe we should be grateful for what we have . I too love the Thames having kept boats on it on it for many years from Canvey through to Hampton court, Caversham and Oxford. All this was twenty years ago and I don't remember excessive mooring charges or many troublesome  liveaboards for that matter .
Nor do I remember unmanned locks , in fact I am not sure I would fancy using some of them without a professional to keep an eye out . The depths, size and water flow are far greater than any canal lock and a recipe for trouble I would imagine .

Think I will stick with my memories rather than experience the reality of today on the Thames  

Graham

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Hi Ruby.

Yes, I too remember the Thames as far as 40 years back. The scenery and history is wonderful, the locks were all squeaky clean and always manned by proud uniformed keepers. You could moor almost anywhere with no problems. This has all been ruined by cut backs and people living there who think the World owes them a living. Its amazing the way they seem to congregate somewhere there is a cashpoint.

Treasure your memories Ruby, that is all I can say.

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The trouble with the locks at Canvey if you do not plan it right you may have to wait up to 12hr ish for them to fill up again.

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