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hedgehog |
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Brian, the point im trying to infer is simple and for all to see. We have lost another member. Thats the only point , I thought that was quite clear. Yes, as you correctly state, the original post is still there for all to see. Unfortunately due to his infringement of TOS and the ensuing debate, then there will will be no further posts from this member. Maybe it would have been better for all to draw a line under this and encourage the member to stay as opposed to making him feel as he does. Maybe there are errors on both sides. Once again, just to be crystal clear, my point was that we have lost another member. Nothing more , nothing less.
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aledsav1 wrote: ”I did not advertise the actual fund raiser? I mentioned the crowd funding in relation to the question, with a very brief explanation of what it relates to and why.
I do not think I mentioned the crowdfunding site did I?, though I can not be certain on this as it is deleted and I was not expecting to have to defend myself so did not keep a copy of the post/question. If I did mention the actual site then I apologies that would have been a mistake on my part, though was still not a link to a site or link to our fundraiser.”
Although you didn’t provide a direct link, by using the information you provided it took me less than a minute to find your crowd-funding page. I think that might come under the heading of passive/aggressive advertising (if there is such a thing).
”And as a result of me questioning the deletion of a question, (I received no answer, until I pursued the deletion) this debacle ensues.
Whilst here I have been brought into question not only as a member but also my integrity has had doubt cast on it, constantly reminded that I am new here, though this is not taken in to account regarding any mistakes I may have made. I have been spoken to in a manner that befits a class system, and been made to feel that I am on a lower rung and should be grateful that I am even allowed to participate.
I have not paid to access this forum.
Given all of this, I feel it best that I no longer participate.”
You have complained about the moderation of this site. There are sites where the ‘naming and shaming’ you have done on here is simply not tolerated and such a post would have been instantly deleted (probably without explanation).particularly as any claim you might have for compensation would most likely be against the unnamed seller, not the 'broker' you named. There are also forums on which such flouncing exit posts are also instantly deleted. You have chosen the one forum that allowed you to air your views and obtain very valuable information and advice from members.
Perhaps you don’t realise (or do, but do not wish to acknowledge) that members of any forum gain a reputation (good, bad or indifferent) based on the content and quality of their posts over an extended period of time. Forums get their fair share of people joining just to cause aggravation (either for the forum or someone outside the forum with whom they have a grievance). Until such time as a reputation is established, it is prudent, I hope you will agree, that what any new member has to say should be viewed with caution, as the veracity of any statement made can be very difficult to verify. Taking the word of a complete stranger as gospel is foolhardy, as you have found to your cost.
”I do thank 'everyone' for their support, time and advice, especially those who PM'd.”
The members here are generally very supportive and informative, but it is Richard, the site owner, who provides the platform to enable this to happen. I don’t believe you are doing him any service by your attitude and comments.
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hedgehog, no mod has forced him to leave if he has or questioned his integrity although he has called into question the integrity of others not here to defend themselves, people come and people go for whatever reason maybe some shouldnt be on open forms of social media.
While I am sorry for his predicament it was his choice to air it on a forum.
Brian
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this will be my final words on this matter although im sure you,as mod, will have the last word as you are entitled to and I respect that. No where in the post did it suggest that the OP was forced to leave either by direct or indirect intervention of mods. I only highlighted the fact that maybe we should encourage folk to stay even if they have made an error of judgement or infringed ToS.
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All good points Pally but doesn't take into account the mods inconsistencies on this matter. They allow other "revenue generating posts" but don't allow allow a question requesting clarification, no wonder the OP is so confused.
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TT, I don’t see any inconsistencies. I presume the other “revenue generating posts” to which you refer are the ‘for sale’ posts that members sometime make. IMO, these are completely different from effectively holding out a begging bowl, the posts are vetted by the mods and it is expected that, should there be a successful sale through the forum, a donation would be made to forum funds. Chalk and cheese.
(Afterthought - had the OP offered to donate 10% of any donations to the forum, the outcome might have been different  )
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@palladine
when I passed a comment of reference to the brokers at the very beginning of the thread that started all this, you seemed quite put out,and asked why I thought you should be involved, I thought nothing of the sort as explained at the time.
Now however it would seem not only are you making a point of "getting involved" but have chosen to do so after the op has inferred he is leaving.
to some it might appear you are inconsistent with your involvement level.
hasn't the poor fellow had enough bad luck without you having a derogatory pop at him as he leaves.
I believe he came here for advice and a sense of camaraderie, not to extract cash from anyone.
I wonder how he feels about that now.
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As a forum I do not believe we are very forgiving if something goes off on a tangent particularly when the poster is relatively inexperienced on here.
On the other hand we invariably try and be helpful by being honest even if sometimes the other party doesn't really want to hear that point of view
Personally I prefer honesty over platitudes any day.
I agree with paladine that an attempt at begging via the back door and a sale to a fellow member resulting
in a donation to forum funds are as different as chalk and cheese
That said it was rather unfortunate and probably bad manners that no one told the person what was going to happen to his post
I realise an apology has been forthcoming but as is often the case it's effect will be minimised by being late .
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Greybeard, the other thread appeared to me to be very much a 'trial-by-forum', of which I disapprove and in which I did not wish to become involved. In answer to your post on there, I did say, "I would suggest that taking legal advice should be the next step. NBF isn't able to sort this out and I don't think that using the forum to trash a local business's hitherto good reputation is desirable," and I stand by that comment, particularly as any claim that might exist would probably be against the unnamed seller of the boat, not the 'named-and-shamed' broker.
This thread, on the other hand, has been an (IMO) ill-judged attack on the forum and its moderators. Once again, chalk and cheese.
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Greybeard.
The post that I did not have the courage to write.
I believe that many members of this forum agree with you.
Those who lack the confidence, those who fear the consequences, and many of us who subscribe to this forum, including myself feel somewhat forgotten, ignored in certain circumstances.
There needs to be a degree of understanding, compassion which sadly with regard to this matter is sadly lacking
Bravo Greybeard.
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