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jaguar
Oct-16-2005 @ 9:21 PM                           Permalink
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hi all, wont bother you with reams of tales.
but, this shows the attitude of some river users.
3 years ago we hired "river swift"a neat 2berth, sporty sedan,28ft. while travelling across breydon water towards burgh,*er indoors at the wheel, i spotted a large cruiser catching up very,very quickly said "i hope this ***** idiot is going to ease off,but no he passed us with his bow wave almost level with his deck.
that was it! the wash threw us about like a cork things fell off everywhere,even the kettle(cold luckily)total loss of steerage,could have been very nasty but could have been avoided by due cunsideration from the other skipper,(fortification was thn provided in copious quantities by a gentleman called  jack daniels.)
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Mike,
Your experience is sadly not a rearity it has happened to me on three occations. Mad
On one trip across the Braydon heading towards the Berney Arms (in the days of Robert)to raise the mast and enjoy a few  Playful Wink  a 30ft plus private cruiser towing a "person" in a rubber ring passed me from astern and then turned towards the Waverley.
The result was that the boat was thrown about making it impossible to steer, boom and gaff jumped out of the crutches, and the few became a few more to compensate for the sore head I received. Cheers
Jim

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Some people dont realise how little wash can cause trouble to other river users.

Have a look at this short video.
www.ncsl.co.uk/webcam/bk2nth.wmv

This was less than 300 mm ( a foot in old money ) but certainly would have caused stuff to have fallen off shelves if I had hit it broadside on.


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Paul
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Oct-17-2005 @ 8:57 AM                           Permalink
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It is unacceptable, irresponsible, selfish and downright dangerous to thunder across Breydon with little or no regard for other users IMHO. Sorry about the soapbox but this is an area I feel very passionate about.

Many of us like to let our engines 'stretch their legs' across Breydon to help reduce piston glazing and excess smoke but this MUST be done in a way which doesn't hassle other river users. Short periods of higher speeds are just as effective as a continuous blast over 4.5 miles...look well ahead and throttle back at least two hundred yards before an oncoming craft. NEVER hammer past a craft from behind...it's very dangerous for the overtaken craft. If you must overtake, do it with care and minimum wash and then open the throttles when completely clear of the overtaken craft.

It isn't rocket science, just common sense and consideration for other people.

Sorry for the rant...



John

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Hi Dibbler
totally agree with you. Remember my very first crossing of
Breydon on a seventeen foot plywood yacht, this very large
twin engined cruiser went past me extemely fast, I was in the
cockpit and my wife in the cabin, I told her to hang on and not
look out of the forward windows, which of course she
immediately did. I turned the boat into the oncoming waves
and really did think she was going to pitchpole or roll over.
We then spent the best part of the day tidying up and drying
everything out, the whole boat was soaked!
regards
Mat

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International colregs apply on Braden, that aside simple courtesy & consideration for other boaters is the order of the day. A vessel taking our wake on its nose is not usualy a concern for me as it causes no loss of steerege and I will remain on the plane unless the oncoming vessel is small .

But NEVER is it acceptable to overtake a boat and shove a wake up it's transom, causing loss of control and often abject terror for hirers crossing Breyden for the first time

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hi antares 9, that is exactly what he did, luckily we were not first timers(we might have been put off)i have watched out for the craft in question but, have not seen it 3 years on.if i do a quiet word with the skipper will be order of the day¬


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Jan-21-2006 @ 10:43 PM                           Permalink
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Problem with the oncoming boat scenario is, if your courses are opposite, he won't catch your wake on the nose unless he knows to turn into it (which most hirers probably wouldn't).  He'll get it on one bow or the other, and the resulting corkscrew rolling can make quite a mess below!

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The sad fact is that if a quiet word in his ear would work, he would not be the sort of person to be so thoughtless in the first place.
Sombody who cannot grasp the basics on accepable behaveour, is more likely to respond to a quiet word with a lot of louder ones sent back.

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Hi Bill, I think you are being a wee bit unfair to hirers here, frankly though there are a number of clueless idiots (as there are with owner Skippers, power & sail)I am more often that not impressed with the general handling skills of many hirers. I try to give advice or assistance where needed and find it usualy accepted in the spirit is intended.Skippering what is basicaly a grosly underpowered 30 to 50 foot boat is no easy feat and I for one admire the general boat handling I see. And lets not forget Breyden can be a very sloppy body of water and should be aproached with at least a basic understanding of the effects of wake, waves, tide & wind upon your boat.

David

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