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Bilgefairy
Mar-06-2005 @ 5:33 PM                           Permalink
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Hello all,
          I have noticed that over the last five or so years the profile of residential boating has been raised due to programmes on radio 4 and articles about famous people who are also residential boaters in magaizines (Damian Herst - Grand Desogn). Amoungst other various exposure.

Also quite recently there was a prgramme on radio 4 talking of a housing plan to introduce 70,000 new houses in Norfolk.

This seems an enormous strain on our inferstructure on land.

Just last October my mother and I were invited to par-take in a meeting held in Birmingham. The chairman was emplyed by the government to ask us residential boaters, also housing planners and other boat orientated people from all over Britain difficulties with residential boat moorings.
The pros and cons of living afloat amd generally any concerns that we have. They are going to produce a "The Good Practice Guidence document" to put a human face on the issues surrounding boating.


Appently there are absolutely no mooring spaces in London and anywhere around London it is extremely difficult to get a space.  

Is residential boating on the up?

Are new residential moorings being promoted?

Are there any changes what so ever?

I am under the immpression that they will turn to residential boating to ease the strain on the housing problems in Norfolk.

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Bilgefairy (residential boater)

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Mar-06-2005 @ 6:34 PM                           Permalink
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I'm not quite sure how this reduces the strain on infrastructure?

Marinas need lots of space, as do new houses.  They need access roads, services, and lots of car parking.  The people living there still need schools, shops and transport.  There's no arguing with the need for housing, but is living afloat really a better solution?

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I would like to see more use of existing boat yards for residential boats. as the hire fleets dwindle I think this would help to keep the hire yard afloat and safe guard skilled jobs I agree the broads area will be under strain from the in-flux of people as norwich is already, but its comming wether I like it or not so maybe its better on water than green belt. I also believe R.B.Os are more environmentaly friendly.e.g. filling water tanks means that we are more concious of our water usage and less waistfull. I could waffle on for ever.........no time at the moment.

regards jill

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Mar-06-2005 @ 12:32 AM                           Permalink
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This is a very difficult subject to comment on in a sensitive way without appearing biased against anyone that has taken up that lifestyle.

In my humble opinion, Coriolis's reply has managed that very well, and I echo all of his comments, especially the last paragraph.

I came very close to becoming a liveaboard myself, (in another part of the country), and I still envy their lifestyle, but aren't brave enough to give up the security blanket of 'bricks and mortar' !  Gasp

I feel however that the residential mooring scope in the Broads area is very limited, since most of the rivers are fairly narrow, and mostly without any bankside development of any kind, (and we must not lose that.)

I doubt that residential mooring letting would save any boatyards or jobs either, since many have already capitalised where they can by letting private mooring spaces, and are still on the decline.    Frown  

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TextI share Paul's sentiments but, the fact of the matter is that at the momment it is against the B.A.'s policy as a planning authority to allow any residential accommodation on board boats on the Broads. Where a yard requests planning consent normally a condition to a section 106 agreement will be that no 'live aboards' will be permitted. We all know that on occasion this is got round by VFV's (Very Frequent visitors) but they do usually have to have a residential landbased address to which bills can be sent.

In so far as an ongoing yard is concerned the non resident berth holder is a lot simpler to deal with and probably generates just as much income, if not more, than someone living on board who may well do much of the small jobs themeslves.

Given that we are talking about riverside property the real crunch however is that if you are going to turn over a yard to residential use then development of landbased housing might well bring in £5 million. You'd spend a long time trying to get that out of live aboards.

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I would like to thank you all for replying to my original message. Your responses have given me a new insight to the situation.

Any new morings would not take the strain off the infastructure - agreed.

I am still interested to see what does happen in the way of river bank improvements and/or any communication between residential boat owners and the local authorities as a result to this document that the government are bringing out.

It seems to me that the break down in communication between residential boaters and the local authorities is due to the lack of awarness or "boxes to tick" e.g. Residential boaters have now been made exepmt from council tax in Norwich. I know residential boaters that have paid this in the past. I have heard that when telephone calls have taken place between the coucil and the individual, the council have expressed confusion as to what to do with them. In other words there are no documents for residential boaters to pay for their council tax so the council renders them exempt rather than tackling the problem and creating a system for residential boaters.

I am not meaning to rant; i am only curious as to if anyone has heard or seen any evidence of the authorities behaving more possitively to the boating community.

Ever watching with curiosity

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        Bilgefairy


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