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I heard the other day that a well known Broadlander, a friend of one of my daughters, is in hospital with Covid which he has quite badly, blood clots etc. Seems that he caught it off his son. No, he wasn't vaccinated, his partner is an 'anti-vaxer, ohhhh dear!

Another family friend has just lost his wife, he'd had all three jabs but she was another anti-vaxer.

We took our lives in our hands today and attended my grandson's birthday party, which we thoroughly enjoyed but with reservations. Half of the guests were clearly Covid aware and behaved accordingly, others were surprisingly casual as they probably would have been pre covid.

One of my family works within the NHS at a local hospital and tells me something of what's going on and the concerns that the NHS has for the coming months.

Two family members have recently been 'pinged', it's getting nearer and nearer, worrying. When I watch the way that some folk behave then I become increasingly concerned.

Don't be complacent, stay safe.

Jolly Roger

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Mr JR, I agree. With your every word.

I would have happily been told "lockdown" by Boris earlier this evening. Mike and I are triple vaccinated,  and also flu jabbed, but I worry so much about the actions of others especially the anti vax brigade. Add to that the ridiculously idiotic attitude of those who now are saying that if government ministers didn't follow the rules last year then they themselves refuse to do so this year  - how they think 2 wrongs can make a right , lord knows !

The boat is winterised and we are keeping as low a profile as possible here. Working from home and not going out and about seems the best way forward. Christmas shopping? Err no thanks. Christmas parties and work get togethers? No thanks. A hopeful new year? - yes please.

We have plans to see 3 (fairly isolated) people over the Christmas period, but if those arrangements have to be shelved, so be it.

I wish everyone a safe & peaceful winter.

Karen



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It is getting very scary once more and these twits with their heads in the sand are causing so much harm to others.     We have a member of the family , thankfully lives in Manitoba Canada and he is an anti vaxer,  an educated man , who now is banned from taking the mini league for sport, going to church, you name it, he is banned from attending.  That is how other countries deal with these stupid people and we should do the same.  House arrest is practically what he has.

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I've also lost two lifelong sailing friends who lived nearby. Neither were spring chickens and both had underlying medical problems but nevertheless, Covid was the final straw.

Jolly Roger

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Back in early January and despite following all the rules and excercising the greatest care, I fell victim to covid. I'd had it for a little over a week when I could no longer breathe and was rushed into hospital on blue lights. It came at a time when the news was filled with horror stories of people in such dire straits on ventillators and sadly dying in hospital.

As I was being wheeled down the driveway by two amazing paramedics, my wife and son stood at the door waving goodbye. At that moment I didn't know whether that would be the last time I saw them.

At the time the vaccination programme had been going for less than a month and we weren't eligible for a jab. My wife and son had also contracted it, but luckily they had no more than mild flu-like symptoms. I got the short straw.

After a period on oxygen and with a cocktail of drugs I was home again but with blood clotting on the lungs and so-called long covid. I still have a shortness of breath and fatigue as a result, but hey, I'm here to tell the tale.

Since then we are all triple jabbed and still go about our lives in the most cautious way. Nothing I or anyone can say will ever get through to the stupid anti-vaxxers, but my message to anyone who may be wavering is for God's sake get vaccinated, I wouldn't wish covid on my worst enemy.  Smile

Steve. CM1 and NR12

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Pretty simple for us here in France:

One MUST wear masks in populous public places (supermarkets, outdoor markets etc.), now extended to the streets. No ifs, ands or buts (“I’m exempt ‘cos I’ve got COPD or whatever”; I’ve a friend in the UK who reckons he’s exempt because he’s hard of hearing), if you can’t or won’t wear a mask stay at home - you can order your shopping on-line or one of the many volunteer organisations will bring it to you. My personal view is: even if you’re exempt from wearing a mask, you’re not exempt from carrying COVID and breathing it my direction, so keep the f… away from me.

“Pinging”? Not necessary - you’re not even allowed in a restaurant etc. without having your Vaccination Pass (usually on a Smartphone but printed version available) scanned by a waiter or receptionist with a simple Government App on their own Smartphone that they’re obliged to use. And your QR code can be invalidated by the central computer, effectively barring you from restaurants, hotels etc. For example, the existing QR code of all over-65’s will be invalidated on 15 December unless it’s been updated by their having had the third “booster” vaccination. Like the masks, you’re not obliged or forced to have any injections at all, but if you don’t, you won’t be able to go to the pub or cinema or, a little more contentiously, work in the Health Service or with the elderly. Any positive COVID test will be recorded on the database, whether or not this also de-activates your QR code I’m not sure.

We hope to return to the UK for Christmas (a faff in itself, the anti-COVID testing and immigration paperwork requirements seem to change daily: post-BREXIT we have to juggle with my German wife’s UK settled-status and my own French Carte de Séjour), perhaps somebody on here can clarify ““Two family members have recently been 'pinged'”

When we get back to England (insha’Allah), neither of us will have the NHS App installed. Is it obligatory? Otherwise, how can we be “pinged”. And if it’s a manual system (I seem to recall visiting a pub in England and a member of the party wrote his details in a scrappy book on the bar), does it rely on one person contacting the rest?

Least of our worries, we were due to fly on Sunday and although my bank account has been debited, the Airline Company seems to have lost our booking!

Peter



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For regular pubs and restaurants in england the contact tracing is volutary and pointless as so few are bothering, my local is one of the better places for covid security and only one person still logs in so no point, nightclubs and large events only need covid pass.
When will the anti-vaxers realise that omicron is an anagram of moronic, which sums them up nicely.

Dave.
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I like the last post.

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"Pretty simple for us here in France:

One MUST wear masks in populous public places (supermarkets, outdoor markets etc.), now extended to the streets. No ifs, ands or buts (“I’m exempt ‘cos I’ve got COPD or whatever”; I’ve a friend in the UK who reckons he’s exempt because he’s hard of hearing), if you can’t or won’t wear a mask stay at home - you can order your shopping on-line or one of the many volunteer organisations will bring it to you. My personal view is: even if you’re exempt from wearing a mask, you’re not exempt from carrying COVID and breathing it my direction, so keep the f… away from me.

“Pinging”? Not necessary - you’re not even allowed in a restaurant etc. without having your Vaccination Pass (usually on a Smartphone but printed version available) scanned by a waiter or receptionist with a simple Government App on their own Smartphone that they’re obliged to use. And your QR code can be invalidated by the central computer, effectively barring you from restaurants, hotels etc. For example, the existing QR code of all over-65’s will be invalidated on 15 December unless it’s been updated by their having had the third “booster” vaccination. Like the masks, you’re not obliged or forced to have any injections at all, but if you don’t, you won’t be able to go to the pub or cinema or, a little more contentiously, work in the Health Service or with the elderly. Any positive COVID test will be recorded on the database, whether or not this also de-activates your QR code I’m not sure.

We hope to return to the UK for Christmas (a faff in itself, the anti-COVID testing and immigration paperwork requirements seem to change daily: post-BREXIT we have to juggle with my German wife’s UK settled-status and my own French Carte de Séjour), perhaps somebody on here can clarify ““Two family members have recently been 'pinged'”

When we get back to England (insha’Allah), neither of us will have the NHS App installed. Is it obligatory? Otherwise, how can we be “pinged”. And if it’s a manual system (I seem to recall visiting a pub in England and a member of the party wrote his details in a scrappy book on the bar), does it rely on one person contacting the rest?

Least of our worries, we were due to fly on Sunday and although my bank account has been debited, the Airline Company seems to have lost our booking!

Peter"

The only proof I have is a letter from the NHS.   Yes I have a smart phone but dont even go there expecting me to get code whatever that is.      Hope you get your flights sorted out pdq.

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"The only proof I have is a letter from the NHS.   Yes I have a smart phone but dont even go there expecting me to get code whatever that is"

Like I said, pretty simple (draconian?) here: no verifiable QR code (I don't always carry my 'phone but I've the printed form given to me with my last (third) vaccination), no entry.

And it works so efficiently here that when my daughter visited in September she was simply able to take a picture of her NHS QR code and upload it to the French TousCovid database to be sent by return a "Certificat COVID Numerique UE" with a QR code valid throughout Europe so that she could join us in visits to museums etc. Belt and braces, both the EU and the UK QR codes are recognisable by control at the door.

And thanks, contact directly with Ryanair rather than the un-contactable Booking Agency seems to have resolved the problem.

Peter

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