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Yes , that's been my point all along Forresters -  that the BA used the lockdown defined version of local when it isn't relevant in the new rules (as expected) from 29 March.

You also raise one other point for me - does "minimise travel" mean minimise the length/duration of travel, or instances of travel ? Or just minimise it overall, either way?

I know what I think....

Karen



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My head hurts!
It really is quite understandable that people inadvertently break the rules, too many ways to misinterpret them. I hope the boat hire yards have managed to decipher the rules correctly and don’t fall foul of them!

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Many thanks for your answer Mr. P.   It is still a bit unclear.  Perhaps the wording should have been " up to 6 people from 2 households,"  "instead of up to 6 people or 2 households".  Maybe its just me being a bit slow on the uptake.   Smile


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So, hot off the press, I'm told the BA have updated their advice , but still misquoting advice about travel, insisting that even from 29th "travel must be local".

I am about to have a zoom meeting but will check back later....

Karen

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I've been sent this :
(Updated page from BA website yesterday, I understand)

"Step 1.2 -  29 March
Whilst some boating activities are permitted at this stage, movement is limited. The instruction is to minimise travel where possible and avoid travelling long distances.

Private boats
Private boating permitted for recreation for a single household or bubble (if vessel is enclosed), or for 6 people / 2 households per boat (if vessel is open air, provided it is outdoors and social distancing can be maintained between people from different households).

There remains a requirement to minimise travel and stay local.

Self drive day hire
Private boating permitted for recreation for a single household or bubble (if vessel is enclosed), or for 6 people / 2 households per boat (if vessel is open air, provided it is outdoors and social distancing can be maintained between people from different households).

There remains a requirement to minimise travel and stay local."

I spot a distinct inference there that the majority of toll payers should still stay away. The inclusion there of the term, yet again, that we are actually required to stay local is added by them to the government wording to "minimise travel"

I am a bit tied up at the moment but had to post what I know asap.

Sometimes I think Norfolk can shove off , forgive my bluntness, but I continue to be reminded of the inadequacies of the organisation running the show on The Broads.  

Karen

Edit to add another phrase I've just notice in the BA wording, sorry for doing this in a bit of a rush,  but they include:

"The instruction is to minimise travel where possible and avoid travelling long distances"

I haven't seen the wording " avoid travelling long distances " in anything from the government . But if anyone can find out, please add a post with the relevant link....

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According to .gov.uk

"The ‘stay at home’ rule will end on 29 March but many restrictions will remain in place. People should continue to work from home where they can and minimise the number of journeys they make where possible, avoiding travel at the busiest times and routes"

Nothing about staying local.

Steve. CM1 and NR12

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Doh!

"..for the avoidance of any doubt, the broads are not legally a national park and do not come under the national park legislation, and nor will they."
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Yet another bit of "spin" from the BNA then!  

As I thought but as was doing this between other things I didn't want get on me high horse without double checking!

Let's just boycott them and pay no regard to their assertions whatsoever. It seems we are more capable of reading and understanding things than they are!

Karen

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Karen&Mike, I've disregarded the BNA's advice for a long time. All they have done in 'updating' their Covid advice is to confuse matters even more.

In their handy .pdf table of the various steps in the roadmap, apart from the incorrect advice already pointed out, under the heading Step 1 they provide two columns, one headed 8 March, the other 29 March. The next column is headed Step 2, No earlier than 12 April.

Under Step 2, in the section relating to Private Boats, they say "Same as step 1 plus lifting of ban on overnight stays away from home allows for single households/bubbles to stay away overnight on boats". So does that mean Step 1 column 1 (8 March) or Step 2 column 2 (29 March)?

They just won't learn, will they.



"..for the avoidance of any doubt, the broads are not legally a national park and do not come under the national park legislation, and nor will they."
Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State for DEFRA (Hansard 2015)

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