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I have been visiting the webcam occasionally at Wroxham Hotel. I hardly see anybody stopping to take on a bridge pilot. I understood that hired cruisers had to use the bridge pilots at PH and Wroxham? Is this true? Secondly just how many bridge pilots are on duty and how long do you have to wait for one to take you through? Another question. On observing all these cruisers I do not see many of the crew members wearing buoyancy aids (if any) and many are children wandering about the boat. Is this commonplace?

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We used the Wroxham pilot a couple of weeks ago, our boat was from Silverline, who had paid for the service and instructed us to use it.  We were in quite a queue, 2 boats in front of us and at least 3 more behind us.  All idling on the river waiting to get to the pilot mooring by the bridge.  This was fun, but I'll leave the story for my holdiay tale.  Which I keep telling myself to start.  Anyway we were waiting about 20 minutes in this queue before the pilot reached us.  He tends to do them in rotation where possible, i.e. one from upstream, followed by one from downstream.  So being 3rd in a queue could mean you actually being 6th in turn.  I've often taking hireboats through the bridge myself, but if someone has paid for a pilot to take it through for me, I'm quite happy to let someone else take the responsibility.

On the point of life jackets, we have only one rule on our boat.  Children under 16 must wear them when the boat is moving wherever they are.    

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Gaz

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Aug-25-2009 @ 8:28 PM                           Permalink
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As I understand it, certain boatyards have got together
to provide or subsidise the Wroxham boat pilot. Other
yards will apparently allow the helmsman to do this.

We were recently aboard our boat at the Hotel watching
the entertainment. A Herbert Woods boat was squaring up
and the pilot was on the bridge. He shouted to 'you,
you and you' I'm taking you through. He then instructed
a number of boats to queue up.

Shortly afterwards a Le Boat craft made a quick and
well-judged approach and disappointed us all.

So in summation, I think the yard will tell you if a
pilot must be employed.

Lee

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Because the pilot service at Potter is run by the boatyard (Phoenix Fleet Limited) the staffing of the pilot service is variable according to demand.  One pilot is permanently on duty throughout the day seven days a week and as many as three will operate at very busy times.  

Queues are only likely at Potter when the tide misbehaves and turns late or is higher than expected.  In such cases the wait can be as much as two or three hours.  As soon as there's an inch to spare for your boat, you'll be put through.  This is an important thing to bear in mind.  Because you've waited the longest, doesn't mean that you'll be first on the pilot's list.  He has to take boats in height order as the tide drops, not queue place order.  Your boat may only be twenty-five feet long and a two berth, but you'll see forty-five footer, six berths going ahead of you for the simple reason that there's a three inch difference in the air draft of your boat and theirs.

I hope this clarifies the Potter situation for you.

Life-jackets?  The dayboats are putting the cruisers to shame here at Potter this year.  Most dayboats' occupants glowing in the dark with their bright orange bouyancy aids.

Regards

David

"There are old pilots.  There are bold pilots............."

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In response to Dennis's questions

With a couple of exceptions hire boats are instructed to have a Pilot at Wroxham Bridge.

There is one member of staff allocated to pilot duties from Easter to the end of October, in addition there are several other members of staff available to cover during peak times.

Waiting times do vary from instantly if you phone in advance and we can wait at the pick up point for you to my personal record of FIVE WEEKS AND THREE DAYS (Merrymore June/July 2007)

Many Thanks Tim

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When we were out and about a couple of weeks ago we used the pilot
at Wroxham, no queue and straight through both times.  In the couple
of minutes we did wait we saw about four or five people take their hire
boats through themselves (all without incident) but all these boats
were from yards listed on the board as having to use the pilot.  Three
of them were from the same yard as us and it had been made clear
that you had to use the pilot!

In the past I have happily taken a boat through this bridge but having
been instructed not to (guess my damage waiver would be invalid if I
did prang it) used the pilot.

I asked the pilot and he said it was quite common to see people do it
themselves and they had given up telling the yards concerned when
they saw it happen.

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Sep-02-2009 @ 7:35 PM                           Permalink
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Hi Dennis

It depends on the boatyard as to whether you use the pilot or not, some insist on it others are pretty relaxed as long as they are happy with the way you handle the boat when they are showing you the ropes.

Also you will find that some boatyards pay for it, certainly Summercraft did in 2008, others expect you to pay yourself.

I will say, that when you look at the height marker, if you are not sure it is worth the money for piece of mind alone to get the pilot to take you through.

Sharon & Tony

Is it Pimms O'Clock yet ?

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I was viewing the Wroxham webcam this morning. I watched this large/long cruiser try to pull up at the mooring place. He gave up then made his way to the bridge at an angle and I feared the worst. I was right, he couldn't make it and reversed out. Meanwhile another boat was pulling in to moor at the  mooring platform. The guy in the other boat tries to a U turn but in haste  his stern clatters the guy that's trying to moor up. I could see both events before they happened! LOL

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The webcam's great, isn't it? Last week Horizon Craft had a notice in their reception stating the Wroxham Bridge pilot was compulsory at a cost of £12 to the hirer. The fee could explain why people try & take the boat through themselves, although in my view that's foolish in many cases.

Simon

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I can confirm the instructions from Woods that the pilot (free) must be used if going through Wroxham bridge.

Whilst at Wroxham there was a board on the bridge advising that if a pilot was required to ring a given mobile number

Harry (raftel32)  ex RAF and me on water!!


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