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Jul-21-2005 @ 9:14 AM                           Permalink
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Morning all,

Next week we'll be spending our first holiday afloat on our own boat, I can't wait it's been an uphill struggle to get this far since we had to move her from Brighton.

Things is we've always hired before, in fact about 11 times before, and I'm kind of assuming things will be pretty much the same, but are they? Things like water, moorings in hire craft yards, etc.

In particular can we still use anyones water? And, will Moore and Co object to us using their moorings to go for a swim? But this is a general question to so any advice would be much appreciated.

PS: If anyone sees us next week, give us a wave it's nice to make new acquaintances, we're on a little 18' bright yellow yacht called 'This Way Up'!!!:)

Reb

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Hi Reb
really pleased for you , do hope you enjoy your saily times on the Broads.
Not to sure if you should swim in them though,bit murky,and the tides can be decieving.
i think the filling up of water will be the same as for hirers.
cant give you any tips on boat owning as we have had ours for one month.
but the beer tastes the same if that helps lol Smile

roya

now about my bilges.

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Hi Reb,

I purchased my own boat last November after a few years of hiring and haven't really noticed the difference, apart from having to do the maintanence and cleaning myself Frown

I still stop at the same places for water, I have even moored in the occasional hireyard, although avoid them on turnaround days and I generally try and leave early in the morning before they get busy.

I have found that when mooring next to other private boats there is less concern from the owners, possibly in the mistaken belief that I must know what I'm doing Smile

Likewise, it's amazing how quickly you jump up to help when you see other boats coming into moor next to your boat, self preservation Smile

Two general observations I would make since being the other side of the fence,
1. The idea that private boats are some of the worst offenders for speeding, doesn't appear to be the case. There is good and bad, whether private, hireboat, waterskier, as with everything in life.
2. Hireboats seem much more likely to overtake other hireboats, but not so likely to overtake private boats. I have an Etrex GPS and always stick to the speed limits or below, and on several occasions have slowed to make it easier for a boat to overtake, only to find them slow as well.

Enjoy your break

Keith

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I should also add that if you prefer a quieter time then try and head to the Southern Broads over the weekend period. Most of the hireboats are based on the Northern side and visit the Southern side mid-week. Therefore there are fewer hirecraft around over the weekend and no problems finding moorings. Likewise if you goto the Northern side mid-week, then there is a slightly better chance of finding moorings there as well.

Keith

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Hi Rebel.g and welcome to the nuthouse...nice to have you on board.

We've had our own boat (a Princess 33) now since 2003 and apart from having to remember the warning "a boat is a hole in the river into which you throw money" we are very happy as owners and find most aspects of the Broads to be the same.

On the subject of domestic water, there is little or no difference between private and hire craft. The blue hoses dotted around the system are for everyone's use. As owners though, we try not to use the water points at hire yards as I figure they are primarily for the hire boats and I don't want to get in their way.

As you've hired many times before you probably know where all the water points are anyway so you'll know the water infrastructure is pretty good.

We have never moored in hire yards as owners and have never approached a hire yard for permission. I suspect some of them will permit it but there may be a small fee to pay. Fair enough I reckon. Moores will usually allow any craft to moor so I'm told, especially if you're going to avail yourself of their facilities. I suspect there will still be a charge though.

Happy sailing.

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Jul-21-2005 @ 10:58 AM                           Permalink
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Likewise, it's amazing how quickly you jump up to help when you see other boats coming into moor next to your boat, self preservation

Keith...of all the truths in this world...that is probably the greatest!  

Rib tickling stuff mate...thanks for the cheer up!

Cheers



John

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Hi again

Thanks for your prompt responses, it's good to hear it's as good if not better.

After posting my last message, a couple more questions came to mind, and I wonder if you might point me in the right direction:
1) We're so small we don't have a shower, can anyone recommend some efficient clean ones for us to visit?
2) We have an outboard on the back, which makes stern on mooring difficult, what would you recommend we try to resolve this issue?

Thanks so much again for your help, it's certainly making it less daunting, you take it for granted when you hire!

Reb

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Hi Reb,

On the question of showers, I can think of the following clean showers,
Beccles yacht station, Waveney River Centre, Ferry at Reedham, Herbert Woods Potter, for more if you check the guide at the bottom of this page, it lists places with shower facilities.

There are few places where stern on mooring is a must and where it is not possible then mooring side on seems to be OK. There are a few narrowboats appearing now and they don't moor stern on and take up a lot more quayside than you will. The only place I can think where you will be charged more for mooring side on is at Beccles yacht station.

Keith

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It might be worthwhile us compiling a comprehensive list of shower facilities. I'm no expert in this field, but these are the ones I am aware of:

Lion Inn at Thurne
Richardsons at Stalham
Ferry Marina (if it is still open)


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We're back!

Thanks for your updates on shower facilities.

I'm afraid we washed onboard in the small confines of our boat and opted for a hotel stop at Wroxham to have a good shower mid week.

However, your entries are not in vane, I'm going to keep a list ready for our next holiday, so keep adding your suggestions. Thanks

Lifes better on a boat.

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