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Hi all

    Seen in the EDP this morning

http://www.edp24.co.uk/content/edp24/news/story.aspx?brand=EDPOnline&category=News&tBrand=EDPOnline&tCategory=xDefault&itemid=NOED07%20Sep%202009%2016%3A57%3A35%3A873

Seems to be good news all round.

Chris J

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I can't say I share your enthusiasm. The instances of single issue groups creeping over the landscape, taking the ownership diversity out of the landscape is becoming a problem. As they become more powerful they expect disproportionate control of the political / economic decision making processes in that region. Take the RSPB's stranglehold on Natural England and their insidious bully-boy tactics to re-model the use of land.

With regard to a "super reserve", what crass stupidity - this at best is an example of "mine is bigger than yours" in the acreage contest at worst it is also a fantastic opportunity concentrate fowl so as to wipe out 10,000s of birds when viral strikes do occur.

Where do these people get off assuming they are the final arbiters in deciding the best in land management - how the hell do they think they can play around with their bits of marsh if countless geneartions of farmers and marshmen before them didn't put in the groundwork?? First they take out the gun, then the fishing rod and then the boat - welcome to Disney land, you had better like it that way, because in 50 years you won't have a choice... Mad

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Hi Chris,
         Nice to see someone sorting out this part of the broads for the future generations, any idea how much it would cost to sort out potter and wroxham bridges Evil Grin  Blush  Cheers
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It is indeed good news. It is this kind of biodiversity which makes the Broads such a nice place. Full marks for this project. I hope it all goes well.

Nigel

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Hi Len

       Nothing that a few pounds of C4 wouldn't fix   Evil Grin  Tinhat

On a serious note, barring raising both bridges, or even a complete re-design (which personally i wouldn't want to see as it would rob us of 2 local land marks), both of which would be considerable engineering projects (and at great expense) i can't see a solution. Having said that do they really need 'fixing'?

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abc123 you seem to ne forgeting the broads are man made and this area was once a marshland anyway, wildlife is under threat mainly from house building as most green belt land is fair game at least this will stop a tesco popping up, and keep the braods as a nature reserve on a grand scale or would you prefer the type of development being suggested for salhouse/woodbastwick ?

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Not at all, you misunderstand me - my objection is the wholesale acquisition of marshes and private Broads for "preservation" by huge money generating power machines passing themselves off as charities.

The RSPB earns £millions every year from ESA, stewardship and other schemes run by the governement. To a lesser extent regional conservation bodies get a slice of the pie; yet they still demand and get additional grants.

They impose their prejudice and seek to influence policy to perpetuate their prejudice. The more land they scoop up the more power they wield - and they are not elected.

These land grabs are not in areas where development is feasible, they want control over the landscape and the people who use it - that is a form of social engineering and to my mind; unpalatable.

I am not against conservation; I and a collection of like minded people have spent £100,000s in the last few years buying similar types of land and doing the same sort of work if not better - becasue we don't build incongruous visitor centres to brag how good we've been.

My point is that they are destroying the diversity of ownership . You will get a "one size fits all" landscape and it will be cut according to the "conservationists" cloth. You will not have the patchwork quilt of different landowners because it has been decreed that we as citizens are not fit to own such important wetlands!!!


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