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Tanner
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RichardB your comments are most unfair! You say..."The business opened again three weeks ago also that the landlords are new to the business and it show!" I only hope when you first started a new job or took on a new task you were perfect from the start!!! Woodfords beer may not suit your pallet but there is a choice of brews and it might surprise you to know that some people quite like Woodfords! The three wine drinkers in our party last Saturday were not worried what size the bottle was! To critisise the food without even tasting it is completely out of order!
We have now made two trips to the Lion from Hickling on our cruiser. As previously posted the first time we only wanted a snack and the baguettes we had were superb and very good value! Last Saturday with our Son, four adults and  our two Granddaughters had a full meal which was nothing posh but was good basic pub grub and again good value!
We will be returning soon to support the new owners. Your attitude of "I won't be returning in a hurry could mean that it closes again and we loose another Broadland Pub!!!
Incedently on the return trip we encountered the worst rain storm we have ever known on Hickling Broad. At times we could not see the bows of our boat let alone the next post which defines the channel!
The photo shows the darkness on Heigham Sound a little after 4pm just before we reached The Broad and the heavans opened!.
Regards...Alan and Linda.

P.S. They have their card machine now and are waiting for it to be linked up, which should not take too long.

"It is better to be over the hill than under it!"

Sorry wrong photo, it will not let me change it. I will try to post correct one!    

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Hopefully this one shows black sky and not black swans in almost the same place!


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Have to agree with you Tanner, myself and 2 friends used the pub on Saturday (after the storm), and found it to be exactly what we wanted, food was good, as was the beer (I also like Woodfordes). I really hope they manage to stay open, West Somerton is a lovely mooring (don't tell too many) and the pub improves it further.

Hugh

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Just returned from a very relaxing long weekend, staying at the Lion. Food is well cooked & plentiful, just damn good pub grub. Rooms are very well appointed all 3 are en-suite & being at the rear are quiet even though a road runs on all sides, the Lion sits on a triangle of roads!
Now a plea to locals, for the next few months there won't be much, if any, visitor traffic so please use it, I want to go back next year & for a few more years to come! Smile

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Tanner, it's well known that I dislike poorly brewed ale and most of Woodfordes' output is in that category though Once Bittern is palatable enough. It is hard to explain but their beer is far too yeasty in the glass, especially Wherry. This excess yeast can seriously affect the bacteria in the gut of the drinker and for me (apart from the taste, permanent haze and no head!) rules it out for me - the only beer I can guarantee will give me gut rot after three pints - and I am not alone in that.

Each to their own re the beer.

As to the pub, I can only speak as I find. The platters we saw delivered to table did look unappetising (SWMBO knows about these things) and whilst I'd normally agree about trying first there was nothing there to tempt.

I can't comment on beer quality except to say those I was with had no complaints. My complaint is that there was no choice - a free house with no choice might as well be tied. Like the Nelson Head.

If the pub was cleaned up a bit more and has outside lighting on at night plus a better choice of beer and food it could succeed - I know for a fact that a number of locals is determined to support The Lion.

And yes, if not impressed initially, I can only wish the landlords good luck. But buy wine in 75cl bottles, please!

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Richard B. Not every pub suits everybody. We should not criticize things that have not been tried. We have met many people who have used the Lion and are very satisfied with both food and drink. Oh and by the way the wine is 187ml. What day did you go in the pub? The landlord and landlady and chef were away at a wedding on the 24th and 25th August, returning on the 26th. Maybe you went in when the 'relief staff' were covering. The chef is very particular with his presentation of the food.




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As many on his forum know, I am reluctant to say negative things about a pub on open forum, and tend to be perhaps a little defensive of those that receive such comments. This is another such case.

I went to the lion for a quick bite and a beer. Any criticism I had would have been about the atmosphere in the place.
Sadly these days, when a pub is "Done up" there tends to be a rather sterile atmosphere, and it stays that way for some time. The Rising Sun at Coltishall has the same problem.

The only permitted "cure" is lots and lots of customers. The place needs to feel (and be) used.
While I was in there I asked if they had heard of this forum. They had not!

I should have stayed there for the evening but sadly I wanted to hoof it back to Hickling before dark, so I never found out if it got busier. I look forwards to trying it again in the next few days. I hope many more do too.

My personal rating would be 6/10 and rising

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We were pleased to see RichardB your latest post on The Lion is a little more balanced. However we found your..."if the pub cleaned up a bit more" comment again unfair! The place is very clean! With regard to decor, 555tcv stated "the rooms are well appointed, 3 with en suites." The restaurant and lounge bar were decorated by the previous owners and are still perfectly acceptable. The new owners have decorated the toilets and corridors and the outside is now bright lemon so you can't miss it! What more do you want!
Regards...Alan & Linda.

"A closed mouth gathers no foot!"...Chinese proverb.  

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" it's well known that I dislike poorly brewed ale and most of Woodfordes' output is in that category though Once Bittern is palatable enough. It is hard to explain but their beer is far too yeasty in the glass, especially Wherry. This excess yeast can seriously affect the bacteria in the gut of the drinker and for me (apart from the taste, permanent haze and no head!) rules it out for me - the only beer I can guarantee will give me gut rot after three pints - and I am not alone in that. "

RichardB.
It would have probably been better if you had prefaced your comments with the standard IMHO. After all that is all that it is.

IMHO
Woodfordes are not particularly my favourite beers but they are no better or worse than many another brewery.
You particularly slate Wherry for being yeasty with no head and a permanent haze. If that is the case no wonder is does not taste too great... it is clearly off! Maybe a change to a pub with a landlord that knows how to keep beer would be a good idea. Although certainly not one of my favourite beers it is always pristine clear and not at all yeasty on the odd occasion that I drink it in my local.
You will be in danger of being accused of belonging to CAMRA if you are not careful and I am sure that none of us would want that! Your comments sound like the sort of thing that they might say. That particular organisation that self proclaims themselves as experts in the field and yet does not even know the distinction between Ale and beer. As demonstrated by their very name.

I also think that your interpretation of a "free house" is somewhat dubious. If the landlord is free to choose his beers it is just that. For all sorts of reasons, especially in a new and as yet un-grown business it may make sense to use just one brewer.
It is unrealistic to expect that all "free houses" can be of the Fat Cat variety.

I personally regret the move away from traditional British beer the the newer American influenced "real ales". By that I refer to the lager coloured very hoppy often citrus-ish beers that most breweries have introduced to try to capture the lager market. Beers like Hopback "Summer Lightning" Beeston "Afternoon Delight" and many, many more.
These are not to my taste but clearly by their success many others prefer their beer this way. To the extent that two renowned beer drinkers pubs in Norwich recently only offered variations of this type from their numerous pumps. If the older types of beers are to be squeezed out I shall not criticise landlords for doing so as it is their commercial decision. I shall either have to adjust my taste or drink elsewhere.

I have not tried the Lion under the new management so will not comment until I do.

    



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Come on now Richard B. The new licencees are trying hard to make the pub worth a visit. The pub has been run down in the past by (IMHO) incompetent people.

Just give these new licencees a chance to turn the pub around and then in perhaps in two or three years, and not before, you can make a judgement.

Comments such as yours can only doom the pub to failure. The pub has a lot going for it in regards to us boaters. There are excellent quiet BA moorings nearby with a waterpoint. Just give these new people a chance and give them some custom so they can use the profit to rebuild the pub's reputation and quality.

By the way. I like Woodfordes beer.

Notty.

So........just WHAT makes you think we are sinking?

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