Topic: Footpath to nowhere


Dykedweller    -- Jul-19-2015 @ 12:23 PM
  I understand that the Broads Authority have given 3 months notice to the landowner of the permissive path which links the riverside path from the Reedham Ferry Inn to Station Rd in Reedham. Presumably this means that the footpath will terminate at Brit House in Reedham so will become of no use whatsoever. Not only is this a much used link to the village from both the mooring and the campsite at Reedham Ferry but also part of the Wherryman's Way footpath.
I assume that the Wherryman's Way footpath will now be rerouted via Ferry Road to Reedham village.
Seems to me that since we became a "National Park" things are going downhill rapidly.


TerryTibbs    -- Jul-19-2015 @ 2:25 PM
  Sounds a strange decision but I don't understand why the B.A. were involved in the first place surely footpaths and bye ways etc are the responsibility of the local Council?

Dave Question

"Inside every old person is a young
person wondering what happened"
Terry Pratchet


essexboy    -- Jul-19-2015 @ 4:07 PM
  You ask why have the BA interfered, because they can  !  Remember
Power corrupts  and absolute owner corrupts absolutely.


George Sims


Speleologist    -- Jul-19-2015 @ 4:46 PM
  Does anyone have any links to the decisions involved here? I suspect there may be information in the minutes of the last Broads Local Access Forum meeting, but they are not on the website yet.

To pick up a couple of points:

  • The Broads Authority (or any other authority cannot close a permissive path, howeverr the landowner may do so at any time.
  • The authority may have negotiated with the landowner to arrange for a permissive path and there may be an agreement on terrms which the BA have given notice of withdrawal. That doesn't mean the path has to close but it may well lead the landowner to decide to close it. I have no idea if that is the case.

It's also worth noting that there is a problem of reduced funding to support access as noted in the Broads Local Access Forum Annual Report:

quote:"......
The forum faced the following challenges: • The reduction of funding for maintenance of Rights  of Way by local authorities generally • The withdrawal of funding for access agreements  in agri-environment schemes • The reduction in support from Natural England
......."

These are all outside the BA's control.

Robin
www.robin.me.uk
"Posthabui tamen illorum mea seria ludo"


Marshman    -- Jul-19-2015 @ 5:13 PM
  Doubt its the BA closing  anything!!!

Lets just try and get a few facts before jumping down the BA's throat - as usual!!!! Wild assumptions and playing the blame game will not help the situation whatever is the truth.


Dykedweller    -- Jul-19-2015 @ 5:31 PM
  The BA make a payment to the landowner for the permitted path, they give notice and cancel the the agreement and the payments, almost certainly the landowner will close the permitted footpath unfortunately. Unfortunate but BA are short of cash so this will probably happen more and more. And I thought that being a National Park was going to increase funding.


TerryTibbs    -- Jul-19-2015 @ 5:45 PM
  The only problem is D.D., the Broads aren't a National Park in anything but a totally bogus name, hence no additional funding.

Dave Cheers

"Inside every old person is a young
person wondering what happened"
Terry Pratchet


Dykedweller    -- Jul-19-2015 @ 5:55 PM
  With all the funding cutbacks perhaps the time has come to drop the National Park bit, conservation, access, planning etc etc and just become a Harbour Authority


ruby    -- Jul-19-2015 @ 8:31 PM
  Why would the landowner necessarily close the footpath. We have had six established this year in our village by landowners not renowned for their generosity of spirit . What's more nomoney or any other favours appear to have changed hands. Well done to them I say.

There is a chance the landowner will keep the path open just because it is a community asset and is the right thing to do.

Hears hoping

Graham


Marshman    -- Jul-20-2015 @ 8:01 AM
  Dykedweller - I am not sure that the BA should pay for permissive footpaths. Well perhaps a token "peppercorn"!! Do you not think that the BA have greater priorities than to make such a payment to a landowner - perhaps the landowner concerned should forgo payment just so the public can enjoy the countryside and the paths. After all It would be nice to think that he would be pleased to share with others rather than exclude them???




Dykedweller    -- Jul-20-2015 @ 4:16 PM
  Marshman, I agree with your comments 100%. Let's hope that the landowner keeps the path open from the end of September when the payments stop.


Dykedweller    -- Aug-12-2015 @ 6:35 PM
  I can now confirm that this is indeed the 'footpath to nowhere'. Today Norfolk County Council have rerouted the Wherryman's Way "footpath" between the Reedham Ferry Inn and Reedham village via Ferry Road.



This message was edited by Dykedweller on Aug-12-15 @ 7:37 PM


Torty    -- Aug-12-2015 @ 10:19 PM
  Marshman, I approve your sentiments. I hope you have signed the change.org petition about Hoveton Great Broad.

"perhaps the landowner concerned should forgo payment just so the public can enjoy the countryside and the paths. After all It would be nice to think that he would be pleased to share with others rather than exclude them"

Phil


Dzign    -- Aug-13-2015 @ 9:47 AM
  Maybe its not as simple as not requiring being paid, but would the land owner then be responsible for the upkeep of the path in the future plus there is always the problems in this day and age where people are prepared to sue over a broken fingernail

L


quackers    -- Sep-18-2020 @ 11:49 AM
  I may have missed any recent postings on this subject, but in case you didn't already know, work is now underway to reinstate this section of permissive footpath, the new steps onto Station Road, Reedham being today complete, and the signposts having for some time been ready to unveil. I have been assured that within the next three to four weeks, we shall all again be able to walk along the river bank between Reedham and Reedham Ferry without having to detour along the roads.

Ask not why the path was closed in the first place, nor why it has taken so long to re-open it. Be content to thank the landowner concerned, and to know that great credit is due to one or two Reedham residents, who, with the full support and involvement of Reedham Parish Council, have managed to allay the legitimate concerns of the landowner about the existence of this footpath, to raise the significant amount of money needed to pay for its re-instatement by voluntary subscription from the Reedham community and from some interested organisations, to dot the numerous necessary i's and cross their attendant t's.

The presence of livestock on the adjacent marshes and wildlife in the reedbeds will, I understand, make it obligatory for dogs to be kept on their leads.

Bill Saunders


Helmsman1946    -- Sep-18-2020 @ 3:47 PM
  Could well open on 1st Oct when the riverside path to the Ferry Inn re-opens following the raising of the bank through the summer


Dykedweller    -- Apr-17-2021 @ 10:10 AM
  Thanks to some very hard work and substantial fund raising by Reedham Parish Council with support by the Broads Authority this footpath is now open again making  a very pleasant walk along the bank of the River Yare between the village and Reedham Ferry Inn.  
Enjoy the walk but pick up after your dog and use the bins at either end and likewise your litter.
Please abide by the signs re dogs on leads. We don’t want to give the landowner any excuse for closing the footpath again (or shooting any dogs).


Marshman    -- Apr-18-2021 @ 10:34 AM
  Excellent - these things take time what with one thing and another, but the satisfaction of what can be achieved by cooperation makes it all worthwhile.

Very very well done to all concerned including the landowner, Reedham PC and the BA  together with all the volunteers who gave time freely.


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