Topic: The boating community


Nobbynumbnut    -- Jan-26-2018 @ 8:54 PM
  Hi all
Absolute new boy here in every conceivable way.

Never posted before and especially never taken a boat out on the broads.
I have finally taken the plunge (I sincerely hope not literally) and after 30 years of thinking about it have booked my first week on a boat.

Now I am the type that embarrasses easily and as such have taken to the net ( in particular YouTube) in a bid to try and get ahead of the game and learn as much as I can.  I have found,, what I think are some very informative videos to try and help me overcome my terror of how to navigate and Moore up.

I find some of these very useful.

There are also a great deal of videos showing unfortunate accidents and mishaps, in particular mooring up

This brings me to my point and subject matter.

I have read and heard that the broads boating community are a supportive bunch and share a passion for all things afloat.

Yet when I watch the videos of people in trouble it would appear that the main focus of the camera / phone operator (even those clearly aboard another boat) is to pour derision and scorn whilst attempting to provide a humorous commentary.

Is this the norm ? Surely their energy and efforts would be better served in trying to help a hapless sailor in mooring up rather that sniggering behind a smart phone. We all have to start so where don't we.

Sorry if I sound like an old grumpy guts but I am genuinely terrified of making a complete hash of mooring up and ending up as the latest internet sensation

Any pointers or advice from experienced boaters would be greatfully received and faithfully applied!

Kindest regards

Bob


Trevor    -- Jan-27-2018 @ 9:06 AM
  Welcome to the forum. Glad you have come on board. You will lots of things happening that have been posted where you say. Yes there are some times errors but that is it. The boating community are friendly and will help you out. Everyone has made mistakes and we all started some where for the first time. Enjoy your first time I am sure it will not be your last.

Lord Trevor
of Sealand


BuffaloBill    -- Jan-27-2018 @ 9:32 AM
  Welcome Grumpy Guts... I mean Bob  Playful Wink  
The one thing you will have to come to terms with is
that we all smile at 'newbies' and not because we think
'what numpties' but it makes us remember our first
outings and the mess ups we made! Just smile back,
shrug your shoulders and you'll make friends very
quickly! Afterwards, people will come up both offering
advice and telling you about their 'cockups'.
The boatyard will take you out on a trial run and at
this point you need to ask the instructor any questions
that you may have. They are usually very willing to
answer all your questions.
Tell us the name of the boat and when you have hired
from and we will do what we can to help.

The older I get...
The better I was....!!


Steve51    -- Jan-27-2018 @ 9:37 AM
  First of all, welcome to the forum. I have owned various boats on the broads for the best part of 20 years, plus previous hire boat experience and I still make the occasional pigs ear of mooring up! It happens to the most experienced of us.

You will find far more people willing to help you than the few who think it's fun to take the bung out of your misfortune.

Enjoy your boating experience. The only danger is, you are likely to get hooked and keep coming back for more. Smile

Steve. CM1 and NR12


Regulo    -- Jan-27-2018 @ 9:53 AM
  Yes, welcome, Bob. Unfortunately that's the way of life for some people. They'd rather film an accident on their phone than use it to call for help. As others have said, we all get it wrong from time to time, even with years of experience, but whenever I've needed a hand, it's been willingly offered. The "film it and scoff" crowd are in the tiniest minority. Ignore them, and have fun.

Regards, Ray.

Whatever happens now, I'm blaming it on Brexit. Everyone else is!


batrabill    -- Jan-27-2018 @ 10:08 AM
  Welcome.
Can I offer the best piece of advice I learned the hard way? In a boat, on a quiet river, just do everything slowly. Do not copy the professionals in the yard who throw boats around like rally cars. And when I say slowly, I really mean it. If the current is weak as it is on lot of the Broads, when you moor you should aim to barely kiss the quay.

People love to help. Ask and most people will take a rope.

Have a wonderful time.

Bill


Cocklegat    -- Jan-27-2018 @ 10:14 AM
  One of the great joys of boating is learning how to do it. This is a never ending process and mistakes are all part of the process. We all continue to make mistakes however long or competent we may think we are.  
Embarrassment is a normal reaction, something we have all experienced at one time or another.  The thing to understand is that you don't learn boat handling from a book, you can only do it by experience. You get the experience from those mistakes.
Best advice is to keep it simple and don't try and do too much to start with. Observation of conditions is a key area to learn and when you think conditions are unfavourable (High winds, strong tides) be patient and wait for things to improve.  
You will get in a muddle at some point, when that happens try and stay calm and don't over react.  So many mishaps are simply compounded when a flustered person over reacts to the situation.
I am sure you will enjoy it. The Broads has for centuries been the place where you can learn without to much danger.



This message was edited by Cocklegat on Jan-27-18 @ 10:17 AM


Nobbynumbnut    -- Jan-27-2018 @ 11:04 AM
  Hell All,
Well I think it's fair to say that faith in the community...restored

Thank you all for taking the time to respond to my ramblings. Some very sage advice that I will take on board.

I didn't see it like  should have. Your right , I need to get over myself and accept that I am not going to get it right all the time as situations will of course vary. Mistakes will be made and I shall accept that.

I really appreciate your support and best wishes and I hope to return the favour in due course.

FYI , I have booked "Ladymore" from Barnes and will be there from the 31st March for a week.

Good luck and thanks all.

Bob



Never knowingly under sailed ??


Helmsman1946    -- Jan-27-2018 @ 11:44 AM
  Welcome ! Bit late on watch today - There is one YouTube video that should be ignored - its the one of a compilation of incidents with a negative narration which I cant find right now but is very off putting The actual number of incidents with mature boaters is low.  Smile

Peter


Harlequin    -- Jan-28-2018 @ 12:31 AM
  I have been boating all my life and have more qualifications than you could shake a stick at (well, at least a few). I still mess up sometimes. Fortunately none of those events have ended up online.
There are those that like to gloat at others mistakes, which makes them rather sad people IMO. But they are fairly uncommon.



PeggyD    -- Jan-28-2018 @ 1:28 PM
  Hi Bob and welcome to the forum! I have always found that most people are only too willing to help! I'll be back on the Broads in April for my 10th holiday afloat. Everyone gets it wrong or makes a right pigs ear of mooring up now and again! If I see someone struggling I always send the other half to help cos he's quicker than me as I have mobility problems!
The boatyard staff are there to make sure you are happy to take the boat over and will show you how to moor,turn etc by taking you out on a trial run. If you're not feeling too confident,ask if you can try again! I struggled with mooring to start off with but have found a way that works for me! Come in against the flow,slowly at roughly 45degrees till you touch the bank,put the throttle to neutral. Tie the front rope off,turn the wheel fully to the opposite lock and gently throttle forward. This will slowly bring the back end in. As I said ,this works for me.
The main thing on the Broads is go take your time,enjoy the scenery!

Love from Pegs


Helmsman1946    -- Jan-28-2018 @ 2:25 PM
  I suspect as you are only out for a week suspect you will stay on the North rivers & it will be BST by then so a bit more daylight

Peter


Still-Cruising    -- Jan-28-2018 @ 2:48 PM
  The only things I would add to PeggyD's advice is not to be fooled by the ripples on the water as an indication of the direction of flow, look for the direction twigs, leaves etc. are moving. Secondly be careful not to pull the bow in too tight therefore not allowing the stern to come in.

Best Regards

Bob

PO20 But NR12 as much as possible.


Nobbynumbnut    -- Jan-28-2018 @ 5:52 PM
  Once again a big Thankyou for taking the time to reply.

I definitely feel better about the upcoming trip and starting to look forward with anticipation rather that anxiety ??

As long as I take it slow and steady I reckon I should be in reasonable shape and have time to rectify the mistakes that  will inevitably occur from time to time.

I shall aim for enjoyment as opposed to perfection??????

Kindest regards

Bob

Never knowingly under sailed ??


Dzign    -- Jan-28-2018 @ 9:00 PM
  One mistake that people new to boating commonly make is to not watch where their stern ie rear end is going when leaving moorings, they don't realise that the rear of the boat is travelling in the opposite direction to the front unlike a car where the back follows the front, easily sorted if you watch what the rear does as you leave the mooring and take the lock off when your boat is going in the direction that you require.
Another useful tip is to count the amount of turns from one lock to the other then then when you spin the wheel back half that amount your steering is roughly in the straight on position, ie if it takes 8 turns from one lock to the other 4 from either lock puts you central

L


Luise    -- Jan-28-2018 @ 10:04 PM
  Bob,

The derisive and scornful as you call them are NOT part of the true boating community (Broads or otherwise), and by no means are they the norm. And the mere fact that you’re aware things can go wrong and mistakes do happen suggests you’ll make every effort to avoid them.

Just two things to add: you’ll be (correctly) advised time and time again: “Come in to moor slowly and against the current, even if you have to go past your chosen spot and turn 180 degrees to come back”. But unsure which way the current is flowing, and with a bit of wind pushing you one way or the other, what to do? Simply come to a halt - good practice in itself - and observe which way the boat is being pushed by the elements. Then let the current and the wind do the work for you!

And imagine trying to leave a mooring with the current and/or wind pushing you forward. Before your bow is out at a far enough angle, you’ll have been pushed onto the boat moored in front of you. As often as you’ll leave a mooring going forward, you’ll be obliged to reverse out. Make sure the boatyard gives you proper instruction how to do it.

Do everything slowly, you’ll have fun and your only regret will be having taken thirty years to take the plunge!

Peter


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