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In the news today the BA must have a glut of money again because they are prosecuting the Beauchamp Arms for having caravans on site which he wishes to rent out to make ends meet. Its like Jennings basin all over again. They persecute individuals but turn a blind eye all over the broads, even building right out in to the right of navigation at Wroxham. Other larger companies can build where and when they want. Another typical example is Pegasus boatyard, planning was passed 2007 but still an eyesore and nothing built. In my opinion all planning should be taken back from the BA and given to local authority with a more open mind in attracting tourists. They have been aware of these caravans for over 2 years. The owner is just trying to rent them out to support the pub in these difficult times.

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Hi Boat1234

You make a number of points mainly with grievances on past issues but I would just like to address the reported action against the owners of the Beauchamp who are allegedly looking to operate static rentals without permission.

I am no authority on planning on the Broads but I understand if you decide to operate a business then you must apply for the necessary permissions.  In doing so the interests of all parties and environments may be considered

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I believe the problems with the Beauchamp Arms have been ongoing for some time, and with the owner pretty much  refusing to engage with planning officers to reach any sort of solution. I haven't read the latest news report but I think it is not as simple as it may seem. Usually it's a last resort to take action against those who ignore the rules and laws around planning, that are there to protect everyone's interests.

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I'm no great fan of the BA's senior management but in this instance, I believe that the Authority would be justly open to criticism if the did not take action.

I'm no great fan of the Horrocks family either, e.g.Berney Arms, but in this instance, the simple and obvious solution lies with Mr Horrocks, he should apply for planning consent.

Wouldn't do any harm for him to tidy the place up either.

Jolly Rodger

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I think I may have said this before somewhere but this pile by the river should have had enforcement action taken against it years ago!! The BA proceed with my blessing!!

Presumably it is the son who is now involved - I wonder where he got hold of the idea to try and be an irritant to the Planning Authority????

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In my opinion, the family has been its own worst enemy in its relationship with the Broads Authority's planning department. I can quite understand their disdain for the planners but the system is the system.

Jolly Rodger

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JollyRodger wrote, "...but the system is the system."

Only when it suits the BNA. They applied for planning consent for a change of use of one mooring spot at Gay's Staithe, to reserve the mooring for Ra, but when there was a change of use of one mooring spot at How Hill (to cover up an historic BNA blunder), from public to private mooring, it was achieved by "an officer decision", with no reference whatsoever to the Planning Department. The Head of Planning didn't even know it had been done, until I told her several months later (last August) and the Planning Department STILL hasn't investigated what appears to be a very blatant breach by one of its own officers.

"..for the avoidance of any doubt, the broads are not legally a national park and do not come under the national park legislation, and nor will they."
Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State for DEFRA (Hansard 2015)


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Paladine, thanks for highlighting this and I fully support your probity, hope they respond eventually.

Strikes me that if the planning responsibility sat with the council then at least there would be a layer between officers and state secretary of elected councillors forming the planning committee whom you could approach and would be directly involved, not just actng as a messenger to the BA committee which seems to be the route looking at the website. I know this level is irrelevant in the case you are probing as it’s not got that far in the first place, but f it had would it have been waved through anyway?

Have the plans for Acle failed to loft and been laid up for good?

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Turnoar wrote "Strikes me that if the planning responsibility sat with the council....."

Problem is with an area like the Broads which occupies land in several District Councils' juristiction there would be little conformity between Great Yarmouth, North Norfolk and Waveney (East Suffolk or Suffolk Coastal or whatever they call themselves these days!) planning decisions because each Council has its own local policies and interpretation of the National Planning Policy Framework.
So what you could get away with at Oulton Broad might be denied at Acle or Stalham, for example.
In theory, at least, by allowing the BNA to operate the planning system for the entire Broads area there should be some continuity of policy interpretation.
However, as you say, this leaves the BNA unaccountable to any other authority and they could favour their own developments or circumnavigate their planning system altogether. As if!

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