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At the next BA Planning Committee meeting (13 October), a report, entitled 'Norfolk Caravans and Houseboats Accommodation Needs Assessment including for Gypsies, Travellers and Travelling Show people', will be presented. The majority of the report relates to gypsies, travellers and travelling show people, but sections 9 and 10 relate to the needs of people who live mainly and/or permanently on boats in the BA area.

It did make me wonder on which planet the BA planners live.

"..for the avoidance of any doubt, the broads are not legally a national park and do not come under the national park legislation, and nor will they."
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In what way did you think about the planet on which the planners live?

Surely if there are folks who insist on living aboard the BA needs to consider how to deal with this?????

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Having a quick glance through it I'm surprised that the B.A. Went to such lengths over  Jenners Basin, point 22,8 on page 30 which sets out criteria for passing an application for new residential moorings describes pretty much to a T Jenners, with a little work that site could easily have met all the criteria therein mentioned.

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daz3210, I'll let others make up their own minds about the report and whether the BA is living in the same world as the rest of us. It sounds as if you have found nothing wrong with the report.

"..for the avoidance of any doubt, the broads are not legally a national park and do not come under the national park legislation, and nor will they."
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Regardless of the content of the report (and I aint got time to read 147 pages in great detail), surely if there is a situation (such as folks wanting to live aboard) the BA need to consider this, and act accordingly.

The situation at Jenners was mentioned above, and teh part highlighted in that regard does indeed seem to bear some resemblance with Jenners, the only problem being that there was a restrictive covenant and an uncooperative landowner involved.

Surely the BA are quite correct if they wish liveaboards to do so in the manner detailed in the report i.e. out of the way and without undue consequence to other local residents.


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Thanks for the link Paladine.

Daz there are 2 worlds the one where officialdom lives and the real one where the rest of us live

I am sure many will confirm that there are a number of residential boaters below the radar where because of planning issues neither they or the marina owners where they reside will admit to their existence, none the less they are in the whole decent people whos presence is appreciated by other berth holders, official figures rarely represent the true picture.

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Ditto. Thanks for the link Paladin. The report was produced for various councils and authority's not just the BA. I'm sure the BA will give very little time to discussing the content as most will be outside 'their' area. Unfortunately the estimate for residential moorings appears to be pure guess work and probably provided by the BA ( no mention of the residential boats with planning permission in Wroxham).  It will be interesting to hear their comments as to the provision of 60 plus residential moorings in the future. If your face fits I'm sure you will be able to ' legitimise' the moorings that most boatyards have which currently try to stay below the radar.
During the 2001 census we were asked not to mention we were resident as the the yard owner didn't have planning permission. This is why I see little value in the figures quoted in this report. Unfortunately those with the power will accept the report on face value as true and accurate( even the estimates).

I hope to attend the planning meeting if I can shake off this bl***y cough( no, I don't smoke ) and other engagements don't clash. I'm sure the words of Cally Smith and our CEO will be uplfting  Smile

Colin Cheers


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