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We have decided to replace our helm panel. It incorporates a boat schematic and both rocker switches and little pop out fuse things. We would like to use carbon fibre and would appreciate any comments or advice from those who have used this. There are no dials as these are on a different, raised up GRP moulding section of the helm.

It seems to be usually patterned, as per the pic below, so I was wondering how engraving might work/look on that, and as we have an edged panel ( curves along an edge top and bottom), we are going to have three pieces and joins, so any pics or comments about this aspect would also be helpful.

We've been to Brian Wards who are always very helpful and will do the panel for us,  but they only have limited examples in their shop, and the lady of the boat wants to be sure she's making the right choices!  Blush

Any comments, advice, experience would be greatly appreciated.

Many thanks, Karen

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Why not make the panel out of fibreglass then cover  it with carbon fibre wrap.
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Hi Not sure what you want Carbon fibre is a very strong matting just like glass matting you lay up the same with resin, bit overkill for a dash panel OR! do you mean the finish of carbon fibre in which case machine turned ally with acid bath treatment would look similar or have Wards make you a dash from acrylic in any finish you want they do a first class job, most go for Walnut finish or matt black leather cloth with a layer of foam underneath which when switches are screwed down give a recessed finish around each switch, chose the lay out with rev counter switches dials and they will do all the work not cheap BUT QUALITY job.John

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Thanks for the replies so far. It's a long panel on the dash that has the wheel attached on a block, then further along is a boat schematic and switches. These will need to be engraved.  The dials are above in a different section all together so not relative to this job.

Problem with the panel we want to replace is that it is curved/angled along its top and bottom edges, to fit around and into the grp moulding that was made to accommodate it. Carbon fibre won't bend of course, and carbon fibre wrap won't last as the helm is in the aft cockpit and totally exposed to sunlight when in use. This also means we can't go for something like aluminium which will get really hot really quickly and burn our knees when tootling down the river, lol.

I liked the carbonfibre as shown in my first pic, but we would have to have three pieces with mitred edges cut to join them top and bottom but that's going to be hard to join together and secure in place, plus course it will require a very exact fit which in itself may lead to problems in fitting, and being so expensive I don't want it to look a "buggers muddle" !!!

So, essentially, I need something that will bend , or something with a bit of give for the top and bottom edges so that I can have the main panel in the funky carbonfibre I like and which is causing Mike this big headache in terms of how best to use it in the set up we have!

Answers on a postcard please ! Lol

Have attached a pic from the wheel end so you can see the panel and its bottom edge ( same on the top)

Cheers, Karen

PS maybe I just can't have what I want?!




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Hello Karen & Mike,

On our upper helm control the two panels were wrapped by us a few years ago on Ranworth Breeze, I fitted a upper helm radio into the upper panel prior to it being wrapped.

Brian Ward's did some work on our lower panel prior to having the VHF fitted on this panel.

Tanya and Nick should be able sort you out no matter what your requirements are.

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Alan


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Hi Karen
Just in the middle of purchasing a new(to me)boat and the boat is having the walnut panels replaced with carbon fibre effect panels, these have been made by Wards and the effect bonded to an aluminium base then lacquered, Wards produced the original panels that were fitted from new.
You can get the legends applied to the carbon fibre.


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Karen
I think the best way round the problem would be to buy a new (to you) boat.
  Cheers
Colin

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Thanks for all th comments. We are a bit stuck with this project now, as in come to a halt! Wards cannot help us with any sort of curved panel as they just don't do them. It needs to be curved to sit in the recess that's pre-formed in the grp moulding, and as grp mouldings are never exact in this sort of situation , the panel needs a bit of flexibility, so carbon fibre is def out. But even picking something else, we still don't have a solution as Wards only do flat panels, and I have not found anyone else who does curves, even if we were to have a plain curved back panel and then something else with the schematics etc on top of that.

Here's the full helm, any ideas? Or suggestions as to to who does curves ?

New boat not an option Colongy by the way  Wink .

Buffalo Bill - do I recall a curved edge helm panel on Khaleesi?

Thanks all, Karen

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Perhaps Wards can refurbish/recover your existing panel.John

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My suggestion would be to forget about trying to fit to the existing grp moulding

Could you create a wooden frame that was planed so it sat flat.

You could then get a carbon fibre panel to sit on the new flat frame.

Might not work on your configuration but it is a different approach and nothing else seems to be a runner.

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