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Very laudable, I'm sure. The 'day of action' has been hailed as a success. As the issues were described as "illegal fishing, littering and antisocial behaviour", I would liked to have seen, in the article, just how that success was measured. How many people were caught fishing illegally, littering and behaving in an anti-social manner?

Or was this just a rather labour-intensive PR exercise?

"..for the avoidance of any doubt, the broads are not legally a national park and do not come under the national park legislation, and nor will they."
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The latter I would suggest Pally, A Sunday in January? The rivers would be almost empty and unless there were any matches on that day, the number of people fishing would be minimal.]]Dave

if it is to be it is up to me.

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I think the important bit of that article is in the first paragraph or two.

This action was taken, because complaints were logged, which justified overstretched resources take what they thought was the appropriate action.

Its important that all illegal fishing is reported to the EA hotline 0800 80 70 60. Anglers need to direct the EA and the Police to the right areas.

I am happy to pass on information received by private message, if anyone would prefer not to call the number.

I know first hand that reporting leads to action, (sorry no details, its on-going).



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This appears to have been a pre-planned operation. It looks like it involved at least two EA officers, four police officers (with two police vessels) and two rangers (with a BA vessel), and an unknown number of cadets (police?).

I would still like to know how many people were caught committing any of the offences that were being complained of, as it does appear to be a tremendous waste of very limited resources.

"..for the avoidance of any doubt, the broads are not legally a national park and do not come under the national park legislation, and nor will they."
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Well said pally, this definitely seems to have been a two pronged app roach, on the am of 14th there was an initial press release which I flagged, albeit met with a wave of silence, and now this following up on the initial hook. I await the next instalment with baited breath.

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Pally,

There is considerable lobbying behind the scenes to get the EA BA and Police to take fisheries crime seriously.

In this instance they have reacted to intelligence which is great and something many of us want to see far more of.

Now you Maybe right in your opinion that the action was disproportionate, but TBH everything is clear with hindsight. If this level of action was taken against other incidents that are occurring then the numbers involved would have been justified without question.

What we all need to do is feed more intelligence in to the system and help target those resources in to the right places at the right times with the right level of response.

In the meantime negativity to fisheries enforcement when they actually do something, isn't likely to encourage enthusiasm from our enforcement organisations.

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DHolmes, I am certainly not negative towards enforcement of any kind. I have the EA Hot Line number on my mobile phone and have used it on a number of occasions, when out and about.

Previous EDP reports relating to EA enforcement patrols with police and/or rangers usually include the numbers of advices given or non-licence holders found. The current report is devoid of any such information, which suggests to me that no miscreants were discovered.

"..for the avoidance of any doubt, the broads are not legally a national park and do not come under the national park legislation, and nor will they."
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Time to send in the 8-man multi-agency hit squad again?

But Postwick Wharf is a remote rural area, on the main river, which hasn't got the same vociferous neighbours as has an urban area in a practically unnavigable part of the river. It hasn't got the same PR kudos, has it.

"..for the avoidance of any doubt, the broads are not legally a national park and do not come under the national park legislation, and nor will they."
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