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Having had a cruiser for some 30 odd years, Mrs W and myself are having a late-life crisis and getting a small weekender yacht. It should be a trailer sailer so we can over-winter at home and possibly explore other cruising grounds, but it would sit on a mooring during the season. We're not in our first flush of youth and have 4 artificial joints between us (!), so it would need to be easily handled and a reasonable amount of space below would be desirable, if only for the occasional overnight.
We love the traditional lines of e.g. the Cornish Shrimper but space isn't great. Suggestions welcome!

Laurie

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Hi lawson44
We do apologise in advance and probably would not have replied unless by chance being logged in.
After coming to the same crisis as yourselves we decided upon an alpha bath tub with a large towel hanging out to dry on the push pit rails. With as much excitement and adrenalin we could spare for the experience. Smile
Kindest Regards
Marge and Parge

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Hello Laurie

You could look at a Red Fox 200 (more recent models are known as the Hunter 20T). There are 3 versions of the Red Fox, the original 200E with twin dagger boards, the 200T with twin keels and the 200S (sport version).

What ever version you go for, the boat is pretty easy to launch. I had a twin keel version for 5 years on the broads and it was really like a big dinghy. Growing family meant we had to get something with more accommodation.

HOWEVER, with a trailer sailor you need to consider a few points:-

[1] You will need two people to launch and recover - most trailer sailers are pretty heavy - I ended up saying that it was "trailerable" rather than putting it in and out all the time.

[2] Putting the mast up takes 2 people (although a tabernacle arrangement with winch and mast raising kit helps if you find one or if you can make one).

[3] There are not that many Red Fox's around so they go quickly when they come up.

The boat is really stable and as it has a wide beam there is plenty of space inside (even a separate heads compartment -nice big double berth up front)

Remember to check your towing limits. This is something to consider for all trailer boats (unless you want an expensive surprise!!) If I remember correctly the quoted weight for the yacht was around 1100kg. With kit on board and sails you are looking more like 1400Kg. Then you have to add the weight of the trailer so you could easily get up to 1800kgs total which means something fairly substantial to tow it.

The advantage of being able to take it home is good for winter maintenance and free storage of course if you have a big enough drive!

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Have you looked at the Swallow Boats Range? Being water ballast they are much more "towable" and carbon spars make mast raising and lowering much easier.
The Cornish Shrimper and the very similar Norfolk Gypsy are very nice but are heavy weights.
Personally I prefer the Norfolk Gypsy, I think it is a much better built boat. Neil Thompson who took over the business from Charlie Ward is now based at Wells and usually has a good selection for sale including factory refurbishments.



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https://www.wayfordmarine.com/advert/swift-18/

  something like this maybe

  ALAN   DL15

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I think that a Swift will be too small, not much bigger than a Wayfarer. Shrimpers and their like are not as manoueverable as a fin/drop keel.  For a bit of comfort, you may have to go to about 21 - 23ft.  Good designs are Beneteau 235, Jeanneau Sunway 21 and Jeanneau 23. Old Parker 21 and 235.
Topsail has a New Classic 700/NC700 which looks a pretty good buy
Avoid anything with a twin rudder, they are very vulnerable when tacking close to banks.

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Many thanks to everyone...certainly a bit to think about there and a few more boats to research!

Laurie


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