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Hi folks

I'm the owner of a 1946 Broom Supreme Commander (42ft) and was wondering if anyone here knows anything about the history of this, or other, SCs.

Apparently, the previous owner (who's now passed away sadly) brought her from the Broads to the Thames in the mid-90s.  (She's now called Montmarency - not sure if she was back then.)

I understand there were 2 SCs built and they were originally called Admirals 3 & 4, before being renamed Supreme Commander later.  But from what I've found, there are slight differences in the layout.  On this page, (http://www.postcardsfromthenorfolkbroads.net/page_5.html) the SC layout shows a shower on the stbd side aft of the wheelhouse - but mine has a single bunk that 'looks' original.  I guess it could have been modified...

When I bought the boat, I was told she hadn't been in the hire fleet but was a showboat - but from a conversation I had with a chap from Broom I was told that wasn't true.  However they have no records of boats going back that far.

So, anybody got any history / memories of the Supreme Commander?  Are there any more out there?

Here's a pic

Thanks!

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Hello there Larry.
I am no authority on Brooms but have admired them for many years, even in the eighties they were out of my reach financially.
That said here is an early sixties Blakes brochure entry for the Admiral class. How does that fit in ?

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Hi Barry

Thanks for this!  The layout for Admirals 3 & 4 is nearly the same.  The only very minor difference is that the seating in the wheelhouse on the stbd side is not full length - rather its symmetrical with the seating on the port side. (and it looks original too so I don't think its been modified).  Other than that its def got the berths in the right place.

Its a very minor difference but enough to leave doubt in my mind that they're the same boat!


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We used to hire them from Brooms in the 70's and 80's regularly, 3 at a time usually in September (Race week as it was known here in Donny).  I will have plenty of photo's of Admirals and S.C's in my Mum/Dads collection up in a dark corner in the loft somewhere or t'other.

I last came across a S.C's named 'La Boheme' (Not sure of spelling but close enough) that was lying on the river Cam, this would have been Dec 2000, she was in a sorry state, we was after buying her as our future project boat but John Williams advised us not too as in his words she was too far gone for the likes of us.

Someday soon I will get round to scanning / digitizing Mum and Dad's photo's and cine film, these date from the mid 50's to the early 00's


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Ah thanks Griff.  Just found this - La Boheme.  http://www.nationalhistoricships.org.uk/register/1403/la-boheme

Again, very similar.  Montmarency doesn't have the round porthole-shaped window at the stern (there is a window but its the same shape as the others), nor the window in the topside just fwd of that.

As and when you get round to digging out any photos, I'd be interested in seeing them!

Here are some pics of Montmarency - she's been pretty significantly altered - there's now one large stateroom rather than a double stateroom, separate single & toilet.  And what was a twin berth forward is now a wetroom.  

http://s20.photobucket.com/user/lairylarry/library/Montmarency

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Hello Larry and welcome to the forum ! Were you moored on the Ludham side of the Thurne just near the turn off to Womack Water yesterday ? I was cruising past in Judith 4 from Martham and was so engrossed looking that I nearly ran into the bank ! If it wasn't you it was another very beautiful looking Broom Admiral I think.

Best wishes, Charles

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Hi Charles

No, that wasn't me.  I'm on the Thames and Montmarency was safely tucked up in Chelsea Harbour.

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