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Over the weekend we moored next to one of the newer and larger Broom hire boats, the hirers told us that they had paid £3.5 thousand for a weeks hire. I was looking through some old papers and found the Broom Pricelist for boat hire in 1966. (copy attached) I think it shows that boat hire today is significantly more expensive than it was in 1966.
Edited to add the word "thousand"
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A quick look on a google search shows that £100 in 1966 is equivalent to just over £2000 today, so I agree with you
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Perhaps they are wishing to attract a better class of people, no doubt to please, or appease some.
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That thinking might apply in the case of the single family hiring the boat I described; but a cheaper boat with 10? occupants it is still a very cheap holiday and to use the well used example, cheaper than a holiday in Magaluf.
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Before I get myself into too much trouble here, I guess I need to find out what it cost to build a Broom Admiral in 1966
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you'd also need to look at the relative costs of Tolls, Insurance, Wages, Rent, Business Rates, Electricity, Batteries, Fuel, Paint, Varnish.. I could probably go on.
Profitability/Margin wise the 60's were way way way higher than today. Once you've found all that out, you'd probably think it's a bargain today.
A quicker way to do all that of course would be to find out the number of firms hiring today, vs the 60's and the number of hire craft about. That'll tell you all you need to know about making a living on the Broads today.
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Just think, when the 60’s boat was built what was in it?
Hull, engine, bed, cooker, toilet and tap, how many man hours did it take to fit out?
What is the demand for fittings now and how many PEOPLE hours to fit the boat out?
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Let us just consider the hull in the 60's. Each piece of wood(of which there were hundreds) to frame and skin the hull was individually hand finished to fit by a time served craftsman. Then each hole was plugged, filled and sanded. The hull was then varnished (again by hand I would think) with several coats of varnish which were sanded between coats. For those that really know the process I apologise.
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So perhaps if boatyards took a bit of a turn back to basics - by that I mean the average hire boats of the 70s 80s as opposed to the ridiculous over the top dishwasher equipped all singing all dancing three storey with garden deck boats that we have today - the Broads would attract real boaters (appreciating the true Broads environment, wildlife, nature etc) who would be repeat customers , and the yards would make more money ? I do wonder though , is it just the small yards who are finding it difficult? As far as I know the directors and owners of the huge fleets are still enjoying a champagne lifestyle….
So that then brings me to the conclusion that the big boys have somewhat ruined things ? In the same way that the supermarkets have priced out small businesses , corner shops etc. And pub companies ruined the local pub environment. I know everyone will say that it is customer demand that fuels everything but I’m not entirely sure , in that marketing must surely have a lot to do with making the customers think they want something ? Does everybody really want a Gastro pub or just a nice local where they can go for a pint and maybe a pie ? And a chat. Does everybody want theme park type holidays where every possibility is organised for you and you don’t even have to think for yourselves, or was that really just another way to add up the charges and suck the punter in? I could go on because the list is endless really in terms of big businesses finding ways to milk us all for a lot more money and making us think they’re giving us what we wanted all along.
I will sign off now !
From , Cynical of Yorkshire. 
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Wow some interesting thoughts!!
One comment if I may: Can't someone be a real boater (appreciating the true Broads environment, wildlife, nature etc) and also enjoy a little luxury and style whilst on holiday?
Also interesting is the subject of repeat customers; back in the day (late sixties and early seventies) we hired from Ernest Collins who were one of the up market boatyards at the time. It was common for most hirers to rebook same boat, same week for next year when giving the boat back at the end of the holiday.
Most people spend more time and energy going around problems than in trying to solve them.
Henry Ford
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