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Jan-02-2021 @ 8:01 PM                           Permalink
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Hi Bella

Very true . Our boat was moored at the end of the Ray Cut where prout caterm eran's were built.

I say "moor " optimistically as we were on mud for 9 hours out of 12 and had to either go out for 3 hours or stay in the Cut overnight roped to  one of Prouts buoys which had water all the time .

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Hi Ruby, we may get into trouble because not Broads related but it seems that nobody has a lot to say about the Broads at the moment.
Been all around the Island either from Pitsea or Two Tree Island until I done a complete flip in my speed boat off Two Tree Island.
Later got first boat on the Broads, lot safer than the cruel sea.
(Broads related)

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That was something we never managed to do as 6 knots was our maximum speed and we didn't want to risk getting stuck.

Went across to the Medway and Rochester a few times though . I seem to remember each trip took longer planning for tides etc than the trip itself .

Broads definately takes  a lot less planning and gives you significantly more time cruising. We once had to anchor for four hours 100 yards from our boatyard because we had read the tides wrong.

Did your flip require a rescue or were you ok to carry on.

Graham

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Jan-02-2021 @ 9:18 PM                           Permalink
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Interesting to see and read Graham's comment about mud "moorings" as we suffered from that in N Kent.

We had a mud mooring in Oare Creek and whilst you could even get out for a decent sail over the top of a springtide, neap tides were something else!! What was best (!) was to get up really early in the mooring, to go down the creek for a days sail only to be frustrated by the tide coming in nearly, but not quite enough to float the damned boat at all!!!

Oh well back home to the gardening!!!

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Jan-02-2021 @ 9:31 PM                           Permalink
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Fortunately someone on the slipway saw us and came out, we got aboard their boat and they towed my boat back in, upside down.
Found out afterwards that the outboard was too powerful for the boat.
When I cut the engine the wind got under the bow and flipped it.
Got it home, cleaned it up and sold it.

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Those were the days.

And to think we moan about only having two foot of water in some places . For many years we were grateful for six inches .

Graham

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Hi All
It isn't the Broads we know but all seems quiet at the moment. So does anybody remember TAPPER a little fellow with a funny little dance when he saw a friend on the Thames.
His boat, he finished up with a 27 Seamaster also called TAPPER.
A character that new the Thames very well and used to be an assistant loch keeper in the summer months.
We shared many a social beer with him in many different places on the river.
Happy days, we where trailing a Shetland 4+2.
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Marge and Parge

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I’m waiting to see the contents of the Police Powers and Protection Bill, which should have its second reading soon. Among other purposes, this includes giving the Police stronger powers to deal with unlawful encampments (i.e. traveller sites), and will make trespassing on land a criminal offence, in certain circumstances.

Depending on the wording, it might be of use to the Broads No-Authority in dealing with water-borne encampments. They would have to have the political will, though.  

"..for the avoidance of any doubt, the broads are not legally a national park and do not come under the national park legislation, and nor will they."
Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State for DEFRA (Hansard 2015)

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The problems on the Thames (from the sound of it) has escalated over the last twenty years, one wonders is this to be the fate of the Broads, the problems with liveaboards seems to be on the increase and is becoming an issue.
Seems that it needs to be addressed and nipped in the bud sooner rather than later.
Maybe not being allowed to return to the 24h moorings for a couple of days may help with the known culprits who flit from Ranworth to Horning on a permanent basis.


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I don’t think ‘culprits’ is an apt description. If they don’t stay longer than 24hrs, they’re not doing anything wrong. I think we all know the Broads No-Authority turns something of a blind eye to a certain amount of overstaying during the winter, as there is not such a demand for moorings. They, and a few others, are just playing the system.

Fortunately, on the Northern Rivers, most of the mooring-hoppers (they can’t really be called continuous cruisers) don’t actually abuse the system. I understand the Southern Rivers are more blighted in this respect, with 24hr moorings being occupied for days, even weeks, at a time.

I suspect that the rangers do what they can, but the BNA’s powers in this respect are limited and, dare I say it, would be costly to use – a cost that would probably fall on the toll-payer.

If, and it’s a big ‘if’, the new Act gives the police the power (under specific circumstances) to take enforcement action against the persistent boating trespassers, the cost would fall on the general tax payer, where I think it belongs.


"..for the avoidance of any doubt, the broads are not legally a national park and do not come under the national park legislation, and nor will they."
Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State for DEFRA (Hansard 2015)


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