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Closure of Red dolphin mooring, Breydon

Please be aware that the above mooring will be closed whilst work is being carried out by Everitt Marine Services,
The Red Dolphin Mooring is located upstream of Breydon Bridge, Port side. The Dolphin will be closed from 09:00 on Tuesday 28th April 2015 until 18:00 on Friday 1st May 2015.
Whilst closed the Dolphin will be taped off with high visibility tape.
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Angie Leeper
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Broads Authority, Yare House,
62 - 64  Thorpe Road, Norwich, NR1 1RY

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I didn’t realise rivers, canals or even Broads had a port and starboard side, I thought it was only boats. Left or right bank, North or South bank, but surely port and starboard would depend on which way you were travelling?

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Hi luise

They don't but on boats if you use port and starboard you normally use it for everything. Ie man overboard on the port side. Look at that otter on the port bank etc.

If you read the original notice it is nothing to do with which direction the boat is going as it is downstream of the bridge ie one direction only.

I think you raise a really interesting point about where the boundary is for the use of seafaring terms against inland water terms. I guess the dolphin on Breydon could be considered to be either.

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When assigning port and starboard to fixed landmarks ,ie banks, I'd always understood that it referred to going upstream. That way, the dolphin in question is on your left going upstream of the bridge, but would be on your right going downstream. It would still be given as being on the port bank.

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As Steve51 says starboard is used for the right hand side going up-stream. This convention stems from harbour buoyage as used by Trinity House, and probably others international services of a similar type.

One way to remember it is that a ship arriving at a new harbour needs the additional guidance given by buoyage, so to remove any confusion the landmarks and obstacles are marked accordingly. Channel edges to the right of the visiting boat are marked green. So its "green to green". i.e. the boat's starboard to the river's right hand side.

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Like buoyage and marker posts the direction convention is  that of the Flooding Tide, which in most cases is upstream.

Captain Howe.

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but you don't suck a Stoat
into your jet engines.
Please leave the water and
banks as you would wish to
find them.

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Either way it should be easy to see as -
" Whilst closed the Dolphin will be taped off with high visibility tape. "   Evil Grin


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Just to confuse matters further, river banks are referred to as the 'true left' bank, being the left bank when facing downstream and the 'true right' bank, being the right bank when facing downstream.

“I can assure the House that the
Broads will not be changing their
name.”

(The Parliamentary Under-Secretary
of State for Environment, Food and
Rural Affairs...Hansard 2007)

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Paladine, that’s exactly what I’m getting at, “Look at that otter on the port bank” just doesn’t work for me. “Look at that otter to port” does - e.g. my log of 26 June last year shows my course at 19:00 being 074°T and Blacktail Spit SHB was abeam to port (51°31'.08 N 00°54'.96 E).

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I think it is all a matter of context.

A note to mariners, which started this thread, is perfectly correct to use directional information that is used by mariners when navigating.

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