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Hi all, I've just bought my first cruiser, an old Ensign 23 (or could possibly be a Burland 23?) moored down Brundall, but am new to boating and need some advice please.
She's generally ok, interior is good, but the exterior is a bit tired and would benefit from re-painting. I'm pretty handy with most things,having worked in maintenance/engineering all my life, so want to tackle the work myself (as well as money being a bit tight!) but I'm getting conflicting methods of how to tackle this!
Firstly, I will have to sand her down, but how far? Will I get away with removing any loose paint and giving the rest a light rub to key (filling and sanding any deeper marks) OR will I have to sand down to the original gelcoat?
Secondly, which primer/undercoat should I use?
Thirdly, single pack or two pack paint for the topcoat? Any recommendations for brands of paint would also be greatly appreciated.
Lastly, is it feasible to do this whilst still in the water, obviously when the weather warms up?
She was fairly cheap and is an ideal starter boat for us, and wont be overly concerned if I dont get a Professional type finish, but would like to do a decent job, so any advice you knowledgeable lot can give will be greatly appreciated? Cheers

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Hi Timh,
First you need to establish whether any previous coatings are single or two pack, you cannot apply two pack onto single pack paints without a reaction.
Personally I'd never paint a boat in the water! Sand hull back to sound paint or gel coat, grind out bad scratches, epoxy fill, sand then apply three coats primer/undercoat, lightly sanding between coats, then two gloss topcoats. If going for two pack sand back to original gelcoat and if possible warm up the hull. Cheers Mat

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I have done 2 boats myself.

1 filler as required in scratches holes etc

link to filler

2 sand down

3 undercoat, I used small gloss rollers and brush where required

link to undercoat

4 gloss I used small gloss rollers and brush where required

link to gloss

mine have been done over three years and still in great condition, shiny and white.

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Adrian  Michelle

Beck  Braydon and Mere.


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Hi Tim It my be that it has the original gel coat,just tired,if so it's not a good idea to paint try reviving the gel coat first, as mentioned it is not advisable to put two pack finish on single pack,two pack gives a lot better harder finish last's a lot lot longer BUT!! more costly ideally should be sprayed on and under cover as it's temperature sensitive also.and to get a good finish without spraying,(Think painting your car).John

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Thanks all for your replies.
The boat has definitely been painted before, as some of its has been scratched/chipped off and some of the gelcoat is visible. There is no way of me knowing whether it is single or two pack so it looks like I'm going to have to go the single pack route.
I realise how much easier it would be to do the painting (only topside for now) whilst out of the water, but time is limited as I live 3 hours away from the moorings and dont have many bookable holidays for next year, and want to be able to enjoy the boat whilst visiting it! ie doing a bit of work, and also going for a cruise around on the few long weekends we will have?
The sensible thing to do would be to enjoy the boat as  is, for now, and do the work late on in the season, or maybe the following year....but I'm not sensible and funds wont stretch to getting someone to do it for me!!!

Life is too short, so push the boat out!!

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welcome to the forum,
had to chuckle when I read this post, bought my boat 2 years ago, thought bit of paint, tidy up here & there... lol... in the same situation by the sounds of it, takes me 2hrs to get there so want to split the time I have in working on her & getting out on the river enjoying it, ended up gutting her & starting again... nearly there now tho, but still not got round to repainting outside yet... hopefully next year, not far from you - down river a bit at Langley, regards Geoff

Geoff, Southwind26


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