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Paladine
Jan-18-2022 @ 10:07 PM                           Permalink
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The mere fact that offences that are enforceable by the police are now being considered for farming out to National Park and Broads rangers says much about the inability of the constabulary, nationwide, to cope. Norfolk Police are no different to other forces, in that respect.

In Norfolk, as in other areas, particularly in cities and towns, there are regular 'hot spots' (like Prince of Wales Road in Norwich), where there is regularly disorder, at particular times. Very easy to target resources in those cases.

But if officers are required there, they aren't available for elsewhere. And they still have to have time off.

Boaters set off (and I'm not differentiating between privateers and hirers) and they have 125 miles of waterways in which to play. A sober group departing Hoveton could end up as a drunken, antisocial group...where? Well, just about anywhere. Very difficult, nay impossible, to target resources to deal with that type of situation - until after the event. No amout of regulation will change that.

When you add the existing reluctance of the Broads No-Authority to take firm action, other than to wave a paddle and tick a box, these are all just fine words, with no substance.

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Jan-18-2022 @ 11:49 PM                           Permalink
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"It said: "A study for the Broads National Park found that of 623 local children asked, only two knew that a broad was in any way associated with water."

What has that got to do with anti-social behaviour?"

Nothing much, but is it not worrying that kids growing up within the Broads area don't even recognise what they are?

So much for the 'National Park' publicity machine!

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Jan-18-2022 @ 11:58 PM                           Permalink
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Effectively the Broads could have its very own private police force, wonderful! Rangers to be issued with body armour.

Jolly Roger

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“… regularly disorder, at particular times. Very easy to target resources in those cases”

Predictive crime-mapping and predictive policing is being marketed by the software companies with its main selling features a reduction in policing costs and increased “efficiency”; some police forces are trying to avoid licensing costs by developing their own predictive databases. The problem is, though, that it becomes by definition a self-fulfilling prophecy, fifty officers in the Prince of Wales “hot-spot” are obviously gonna make more arrests than one local bobby covering a large area. And just a few steps from using AI to justify targeting areas, to targeting groups, to targeting individuals.

An interesting ethical discussion topic, not for a Broads Forum, though…

Peter

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LB that occurred to me too! I was astonished.

But then taking your little sorry about the traffic survey into account , it could easily be not quite what it seems. How "local " to the Broads were they? How old were they? ...

Who knows ! Lol

Karen

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Indeed! That is the problem with statistics; you can manipulate them to say whatever you want!
Maybe they sampled a nursery school West of Kings Lynn!  Smile

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