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Paladine
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https://www.edp24.co.uk/news/local-council/police-probe-into-broads-authority-8362140


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I read that too.
Where is that mooring shown in the top picture?(Not
relevant to the mooring in question)
Can't put my finger on it.

The older I get...
The better I was....!!


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Morning Bill

I think you will find that's the Bell Inn moorings.

            Brian

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Now I thought the moorings in the headline picture were at Acle, looking upstream from the bridge.

Steve. CM1 and NR12

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Absolutely no surprises there then. Whilst I count one of the planning department officers as a friend I am wholly in agreement with Mr Fuller's assessment of the BA and the planning dept. ! was previously well aware of the idiosyncrasies of the Haddiscoe mooring saga,

Jolly Roger

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Headline photo is Acle upstream of Bridge.
Further down the photo is of the new cut looking toward Reedham so the mooring is Haddiscoe De-masting mooring.
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JollyRodger wrote, “Absolutely no surprises there then.”

I am utterly amazed. I have no inside knowledge and I only have the EDP report to go on, and, for once, their reporting seems to be remarkably balanced BUT...

The offence of Misconduct in Public Office is committed when:

a public officer acting as such;
wilfully neglects to perform his duty and/or wilfully misconducts himself;
to such a degree as to amount to an abuse of the public's trust in the office holder;
without reasonable excuse or justification. [source: CPS legal advice ]

The EDP report says, ”...the detective sergeant who investigated concluded nothing criminal occurred...”

The offence carries a maximum sentence of life imprisonment and is only triable at Crown Court, so it’s not something to be taken lightly. There is no indication that the advice of the Crown Prosecution Service was sought, which is one of their roles, and something I would have expected.

It is also said that no Broads No-Authority employee was interviewed, yet the report by the officer says, "Whilst the motivations behind the decisions made by the official planning officers of the Broads Authority are undetermined, it is apparent that their behaviour appears to be obstructive, unreasonable and at times bizarre however it is not so serious as to be criminal."

Undetermined? Motivation is most important.

"At its highest the motive may be malice or bad faith but they are not prerequisites. Reckless indifference would be sufficient." [CPS guidance]

The EDP says that the investigating officer "...described the issue of the redacted email as "concerning", but added "it could be said that there was a lack of understanding on the part of the redactor as to what did and did not require redaction as opposed to any misconduct or malicious intent."

How on earth can that conclusion be drawn, when the redactor wasn't even interviewed. It might well be that the redactor know full well what they were doing and was trying to avoid damaging information from being revealed, which would add to the evidence of the offence.

The state of mind (mens rea) of any alleged perpetrator of the offence is crucial. Yet, the police didn’t get that far.

It makes me wonder why it took 14 months to complete the investigation, an investigation which seems to be far from complete. The published letter from the constabulary suggests the investigation of the allegations was mishandled, so will there be another one, properly carried out, so we may, at least, have some trust in the local constabulary?




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Why I suggested that there are no surprises is because there have been a number of events over the years, not just planning, where Authority shenanigans have been open to question. I have met Mr Fuller at Authority consultations and meetings, he is well worth having a conversation with. On a personal basis, I have witnesses planning decisions locally that can only have been vindictive and unreasonable. The smooth-talking Dr Packman is due for retirement, perhaps now would be a good time. Hats off to the EDP on this one.

Jolly Roger

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I don't often agree with paladine but I do here. This was either porentially very serious in which case the potential suspects should have been questioned at the very least or a storm in a tea cup which shouldn't have taken the police 14 months to decide on nfa.

Not a good day for any of the public bodies concerned but we'll done to the edp. Also a tick for Mr Knight who again appears to be one of the good guys trying to open up decision making in the BA.

Graham.

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It gets worse!
https://www.edp24.co.uk/news/local-council/analysis-after-broads-authority-police-probe-8373346

Jolly Roger

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