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Worth noting that the Planning Committee is made up of all 9 of the Local Authority Nominees plus 4 Secretary of State members & after an explanation by the Officers complete with site history going back many years they voted unanimously to go ahead as this stops the clock on the possibility of a Certificate of Lawfulness application in the future
BA as a Planning Authority in Law has its own Local Plan which went through all the stages of Consultation They also have to work within the National Planning Guidelines which are currently under review This status will not change under the proposals include in the Governments Landscape Review (Glover) The next stage of which is imminent.




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I suspect that I am far from being the only person having little or absolutely no faith whatsoever in the repeatedly devalued consultation process when it involves our all controlling friends at Yare House.  

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Not just in Yare House! Great Yarmouth are getting a bridge from nowhere to nowhere that had a 'consultation' lasting what seemed like several years but the whole requisite construction company tender and selection process was completed within 4 weeks of being given planning consent to begin the build!
It was going to be built regardless of what Joe public said. Consultations are a necessary evil in order to tick a box.



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Is this the £120m bridge? If so the contract would have been advertised in the public domain for fair tender opportunity. At least I hope so as this is our money whether you agree with its use or not.

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To be fair GYBC is not the Highway Authority & was only a Consultee among many others further up the pyramid.

The building of this bridge (Work on the approach to the A47 has already began) is one the causes for the delay in a decision for duelling the Acle Straight as the likely changes in traffic flow have to be re-modelled




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Regarding the pub and caravans,  When I use to use that pub back in the late 1960's ealry 1970's there were caravans there then.
I can remember the fishermen using them to stay in.
Surly that would have needed planing at that time so as this is NOT a change of use, I can not see what the problem is ?


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Helmsman said "To be fair GYBC is not the Highway Authority & was only a Consultee among many others further up the pyramid."

In fairness to me I did not state which authority was responsible merely that the bridge site is in Great Yarmouth.

I have other examples of "consultations" that are acceptable to GYBC if you like; How about the traffic survey carried out in a recognised holiday village not in July or August but in the second week of December? One of the assumptions made within that survey was that 5% of people will travel by train when the railway station closed in 1970 and the route had houses built on it in the mid-1980's!

Can't see what's wrong with that. Traffic survey box ticked!

Acle straight improvements are on the back burner for another 10 years I believe although at least the North Burlingham dualling is going ahead.

Still we are drifting off topic here and we should be conversing about boats and the Broads not road improvement schemes.


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Turnoar wrote "Is this the £120m bridge? If so the contract would have been advertised in the public domain for fair tender opportunity. At least I hope so as this is our money whether you agree with its use or not."

Yes that sounds like the one although the last estimate I saw was £114m which will probably be £120m by the time it is finished.

I think the tendering process went ahead prior to the consultation which is why the successful builder could be announced so quickly but it also made a mockery of that consultation hence my comment about construction regardless.

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