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To put this into some kind of context, from what I can make out from the plans, the houses are going in the area I've highlighted in Red. The Bure Park including the pitch and putt, I've highlighted in Yellow. Doesn't seem to obstruct the view too much to me!


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Sep-03-2018 @ 10:16 AM                           Permalink
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Many thanks Colin, that information is a relief.  I myself am very familiar with the park as I live in the area, but must admit have not been up there for a while.  Just how do they propose to keep the mornings secure?  In the past there has been a lot of vandalism and I know it is one area that local people would like to see improved.  Another thought crossed my mind about this whole project. One scheme that has long been kicked into the long grass, was to have a A47/A149 link road. This would join the Vauxhall roundabout and cross the Bure at around the point where the Marina is.  This was identified, after detailed analysis, as a major improvement to the huge traffic problem we have in GY.  This is clearly never going to happen with this project going ahead.  It would be much better in an ideal world (dreaming I know) if we could see a much bigger scheme! where the whole southern part of the flood wall was moved back and an enclosed dock built with houses around, 'engaging' the park on one side, the water providing the security while at the same time enhancing the park.............fanciful I know and only something that would happen in Holland! Not here!


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Sep-03-2018 @ 1:23 PM                           Permalink
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Was their not talk of building a Marina with housing on the opposite bank/marsh some time ago. Evan better BUT!! John

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Sep-04-2018 @ 10:33 AM                           Permalink
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That is correct, the plan was to align the new link road in such a way as to form a new Broad on the opposite bank to the Marina, A very ambitious plan and one that we shall now never see.  One of the problems with all this is the very short term thinking and the dangers that small scale Ad Hoc developments spoil better possibilities. GYBC and NDC have wasted vast sums on such projects and have missed some great opportunities to profit from Broads boating and the wider yachting world.  The council is in a difficult position as it has seen some  of the biggest cuts to funding of any town in the UK, yet that too simply exacerbates this short term thinking.

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Sep-04-2018 @ 9:08 PM                           Permalink
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Why the negatives? This hasn’t happened yet as it’s only a planning application proposal. How can one say that other developments will never happen now because of this .. “ This “ has not been approved yet.

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Sep-05-2018 @ 7:57 AM                           Permalink
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From what I have read they have already dredged the river at the site, so got to look very positive.   Cant wait for it all to be done.   At long last something good is being done.



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Sep-05-2018 @ 9:11 AM                           Permalink
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Let's hope this gets the go ahead. Any extra moorings close to Gt Yarmouth has got to be a bonus.
I would like to see more detail for the houses and residential moorings. Are there to be more ladders in the quay heading, where are the water and electric points going to be. Will there be a mobile pumpout unit or will there be pumpout points along ALL the quay.
Why only one parking space for the residential moorings.
The devil is in the detail

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Sep-05-2018 @ 9:55 AM                           Permalink
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How can the moorings be secure without obstructing public access?
Anyone who knows this location will know the problems people have had in the past with boats being damaged and items stolen. It would be great to see these plans coming to fruition, but I simply don't believe the current plan have looked at these problems.  Placing security fencing and re-routing the footpath will be what actually happens.  This could be achieved but needs very careful consideration to the current visual aspects of the park. We don't want to see the same type of cheap wire fencing such as that at the Yacht Station . This does nothing to enhance Tar Works Road. The developers need to work with both the BA and GYBC to come up with a solution.

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Sep-05-2018 @ 10:09 AM                           Permalink
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What makes you think the developers haven't been working with the BA and GYBC? I believe meetings have already been had on site and that the application is one that has been arrived at after consultation with the BA. It is not unusual for a developer to engage the local planning authority and get some measure of what is likely to be acceptable or stand a reasonable chance of being passed.

With regards security at the moorings, I'm guessing that by having 12 residential moorings that in itself becomes an integral part of the security. With the retention and refurbishment of the marina building I would imagine that CCTV would be installed on the building looking along the mooring.

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Indeed the Application Form Indicates that consultations have been held. BA have also been taking enforcement action re the current state of the site since March 2017

Peter

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