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BA Rangers collect rubbish on Breydon water

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A great job well done. Just imagine if everyone could pick up one or two bits of litter every day either on the Broads, in their home town or anywhere, it would make a huge difference and it might just help to put an end to the terrible photographs of a turtle with a plastic bag coming out of its nose etc.
P.S Tried to put a thumbs up icon at the top but came out thumbs down and I can't figure out how to change it. Phil



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Re the thumbs up/down, I don't usually bother, but, having now taken a look, the radio button is to the left of the relevant icon, whereas my brain thinks it should be to the right.

Re rubbish, we usually try to pick up jetsam. We've collected quite a selection of fenders, boat hooks, even a mud weight   Smile

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If it were anyone else, I would not be such a pedant; but since I get much satisfaction from your obsession with accuracy, Paladine, I have to suggest that surely fenders, boathooks etc. are more likely to be flotsam?

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MUM...I’m being picked on by a cyber-bully!

But, mea culpa, I was somewhat lazy. I posted from my iPad, using a virtual keyboard, which I hate, and kept the post brief. However, in my defence, I would say that, while fenders and boathooks accidentally lost overboard might well be flotsam, the mudweight was definitely thrown overboard (at a wild mooring and, presumably, from a hireboat, the crew of which were unable to retrieve it and untied the rope which was attached to the boat), so would be regarded as jetsam.

‘Flotsam’ derives from the French for ‘to float’ – ‘flotter’, while jetsam is an abbreviation of ‘jettison’, which, in turn, derives from the French for ‘to throw' – ‘jeter’.

The words flotsam and jetsam really only relate to marine environments. The definition of a wreck, in section 255 of the Merchant Shipping Act 1995, includes ”jetsam, flotsam, lagan and derelict found in or on the shores of the sea or any tidal water.”

“Tidal water” is defined as”any part of the sea and any part of a river within the ebb and flow of the tide at ordinary spring tides, and not being a harbour.”

As the Broads, rather curiously, is legally a harbour, the above seems not to apply.

In the vernacular, the expression ‘flotsam and jetsam’ is used to describe odds and sods, or bits and pieces, or unwanted and discarded items.

Perhaps, in Broads terms, it's really simpler just to call it LITTER!

Tinhat  Smile

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LOL boat-sail

Bob Huppendoun

There would be no life without water!!!

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Pally, like you, I tried to recover a loose rope in the river, on the upper Ant, only to find a mud-weight attached to the other end. I was a hirer at the time (about 25 years ago) and kept the mud-weight as the first item towards buying my own boat. Later that holiday, I threw a rhond anchor on the bank only to see it bounce back and drop in the river! I pulled out my landing net and within a minute I'd netted the rhond anchor but I soon noticed it was a little rusty, unlike the one I'd lost. A little more fishing around found the correct item, so I then had two items for my own boat.

I always keep an eye open for flotsam but my wife tends to shout “No” as soon as I spot something and that includes the stainless steel beer keg I once saw floating on the Gt Ouse.

Andy

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I have learnt that when advising a hirer to chuck the mudweight off the bow it's best to include the phrase "but tie it on first" as I've seen too many chucked in rope and all never to be seen again.
And "pass me your rope" often has to be followed up with "it would be better if the other end was attached to your boat".  

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Formerly 'LeoMagill'

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Well, since we are on the interesting subject of flotsam and jetsam, what about the third option - lagan?

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