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Oct-13-2017 @ 12:21 AM                           Permalink
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No Paladine I am not asking anyone to believe that, hence the evil grin addition.
Unless the conspiracy theorists think that this was planned, agreed and organised months before the announcement, that is obviously not feasible.

However there has apparently been an increase in small boats which might have been helped by their toll decrease. A fairly big co-incidence if not.

From a purely revenue point of view the BA may have pulled off a winning move. Higher revenues from larger private boat owners and significantly more smaller boats paying tolls (albeit cheaper this year). On the basis that more boats = more payments, that must mean that the BA trousered extra funds.



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Paladine, the 13.2% increase could happen, but surely that's scaremongering and taking that figure completely out of context.
lf ALL the measures were implemented, then yes it could come to the 13.2% stated, but, as I read it only one or two options are expected to come to fruition. With the predicted (hoped for ?) increase in boat numbers this should offset the increase for those tasks selected for 2018/19 to the 1% to 3.2% increase apparently needed to balance the books. Further, the report highlights the 1%, so I believe that will be the chosen figure. I hope I'm proved right !

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A 13.2% rise is less than the increase I faced this year. Many had a higher increase in their tolls. Now the BA has discovered the World hasn't collapsed, I really don't trust them not to do the same again.

Please note that they are saying that these are all projects that we, the boaters, want to see undertaken.

"..for the avoidance of any doubt, the broads are not legally a national park and do not come under the national park legislation, and nor will they."
Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State for DEFRA (Hansard 2015)


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I am confused about the number of hire boats increasing. Just looking across Richardsons and Herbert Woods I have identified 16 boats currently for sale, 4 sold already.

I am only aware of 2 new boats being introduced by Richardsons although I accept there could be some more that I have not found yet.

The new yard at Acle started trading this year although their boats were I believe from the Richardsons fleet.

A further 2 boats from Lodden are for sale and I cannot make the numbers add up. Does anyone else have any doubts about the BA belief that the hire fleet is on the up?

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Which boats are up for sale from Loddon Ken??

Trevor

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Hi Trevor. Swallow and Merlin through Boatshed Norfolk.

First heard about them a couple of months ago.

Ken

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Boats named above come from maffett cruisers Loddon , if anyone is wondering

steve and vicky
( apparently a moaner)

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A colleague of mine who has his boat on the Gt Ouse was bemoaning the cost of river licences for next year.
Open the link and make your own mind up ( I know where I'll be staying next season !!)

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/anglian-waterways-registration-charges

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Ken,

I believe there may have been a small increase in the hirefleet although not necessarily 13. Richardsons lost 7 boats (9 less two new), Woods must have lost about 4/5 (3 added) although they appear to lose boats gradually through the season which could scew the numbers, city boats sold their three. Brooms however expanded by about 6, Norfolk Yacht Agency introduced 2, Ferry had an overall gain of about 3. In addition Broads Boating added the 9 Richardsons were selling and two from Faircraft. The other yards stayed more or the less same with no net gains.

Looking at next year I believe the overall numbers will fall again all be it by small numbers with Mafetts pulling out and Richardsons/ Woods selling more than they are building.

Neil



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Hi Neil, your details are more comprehensive than mine but seem to support my view that the BA numbers are probably wrong.

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