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Letter in today's Edp

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What else would you expect Jamie Campbell to say??!!

The BA has a few very vociferous opponents around and we can all name a few - perhaps to balance the discussion the EDP could run articles and letters from those, possibly even in the majority, who have very little to complain about, but then thats not newsworthy is it??

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Good point Marshman.

The discussing over the best way to manage the Broads goes back over 60 years. Now that we have an 'Authority' the impossibility of keeping us all happy has never been more apparent.

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MM, each of the opponents and supporters of the BA have their own somewhat entrenched position. But before dismissing Jamie Campbell’s letter with a cursory ‘well, he would say that, wouldn’t he’, just look at some of his comments:

1. Since formation, the Broads Authority has grown massive in size... Can anyone argue against that?

2. ...receives around half of its income from rapidly increasing navigation tolls... Yes it does receive almost half its income from the toll. Rapidly increasing? Leaving to one side this season’s changes, when many found their tolls had rapidly increased (some by 50%), while others found theirs had decreased, overall increases have been way above inflation in most years
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3. ...effectively a local tax... Well, no, not really a fair comparison. Boat owners have a choice. If they don’t want to pay the toll, don’t buy a boat. People don’t need boats, but they do need somewhere to live, so they pay a local tax, council tax, either directly or through their rent.

4. An attempt was made to do away with the navigation committee. That is a matter of record, is it not?

5. Discussions were being held with English Nature for five years before the members were informed? I don’t know about that, so I look forward to the denial from the BA.

The rest of the letter contains his opinions, to which he is entitled. Opinions which are shared by a number of people who have a greater in-depth knowledge of the inner working of the Authority than most of us here.

I would support his opinion that a review should be carried out by an independant body. John Packman has called for it to be conducted by the National Parks Authorities. He regards the Local Government Association as 'inappropriate' to do that job. Given his (and the SoS appointees') clear distain of local authority members on the Authority, that position is hardly surprising.


"..for the avoidance of any doubt, the broads are not legally a national park and do not come under the national park legislation, and nor will they."
Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State for DEFRA (Hansard 2015)

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Points one and two are hardly arguments against the BA though are they? They're just facts. Jamies third point isn't correct and yes the nav com claim is valid, as for these secret Natural England talks... what would they of spoke about? Other than permissions the BA have no involvement at GHB.  I   believe the review should be conducted by the National Park authorities as that is largely how the BA are funded and legislated. Having said that I don't see any harm in the review being carried out by the NPAs along with a Local authority review, and the outcome will most likely be along the lines of 'nothing to see here'.

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This is where it all falls down.
The same old crew keep banging on about the same old things.
Look back at the now defunct Broads forum that preceded even this one. This latest attack on the BA (and more particularly JP) is spearheaded by the many of the same people making most of the same points as they did on that forum then. That must have been ten to fifteen years ago.
Anyone that has followed proceedings over that period could have predicted those that would come out of the woodwork now with alarming accuracy.

In search of some sort of story the EDP has attached itself to people who it must know full well are totally biased in their views. After all they have covered previous stories by those people in the past. In promoting only one side of the story the paper has shown itself (again) to be the mere parochial local rag that it really is.
Reading the article you have to wonder who actually wrote it?  A journalist or maybe the the BA opponent themselves? If it was the former it reads like a verbatim copy of said opponents views.

Way back in the day Norwich had an MP named David Ennals who used the EDP as his personal publicity machine. The paper printed his every thought and idea without question or debate. I always admired Mr Ennals for his ability to manipulate the paper so thoroughly. However all these years later it seems that it is still easy enough to do should you have the mind to do so.  

There are issues that the BA needs to address for sure, but dealing with a hardcore group with personal grudges is not one of them.





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"There are issues that the BA needs to address for sure..."

Which are?

"..for the avoidance of any doubt, the broads are not legally a national park and do not come under the national park legislation, and nor will they."
Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State for DEFRA (Hansard 2015)

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Do the EDP picture editors only have one BA picture in stock? They have used this one on several occasions now...

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