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Certainly no need to ask for forgiveness Hylander, we all see things differently.

The ecology of the Broads is not natural, having been man-made in the first place. If not regularly trimmed back, they would soon (in just decades) return to an impenetrable Carr woodland, like the boardwalk to the NWT site at Ranworth Broad.


"then why were they not cut down on the opposite bank"


The DEFRA flood protection plan was set to take 20 years, and we are not quite halfway through it yet. I assume they don't do both sides at the same time to reduce the impact on wildlife (and us !).  The setback and new dykes on the East bank for the Ant was done about 5 years ago, and they only started on the West bank last year.

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The problem with the work at Fleet dyke is that it used to provide a very pleasant mooring. You were not bow to stern, had your own space and could go off for a good walk safe in the knowledge that your boat was not going to be clobbered whilst away.
Now that the old quay heading has been ripped out (with the exception of about 30ft) these moorings are gone for ever.
I know more moorings have been provided at Ludham but for those wanting peace and quiet they don't compare.
I can't see many private boats using Ludham for fear of a bashing at high season.

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"I know more moorings have been provided at Ludham but for those wanting peace and quiet they don't compare.
I can't see many private boats using Ludham for fear of a bashing at high season
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I agree Cap'n.  I much prefer quiet moorings myself, away from Pubs (and Pub-goers Wink  ) and other boats.

The "new" moorings on the Ant though aren't just the busy ones opposite the Staithe, some short sections have been put in past the bend, up near Neaves Mill, well away from the busy and narrow Ludham Bridage section.

Hopefully some of the new quayheaded moorings promised for Fleet Dyke will also be similarly secluded. Smile  

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When we went through yesterday there was one small piece of quay heading left, which was the one i would usually try to moor on, enough room for one boat. Now all the rest has gone I suppose if I wish to moor there I will have to get up with the 6.00am and off we go brigade so I can be there for 10.00am and moored for the rest of the day. As my origional post says this has took a lot of very popular mooring out of the system, what worries me is the pressure it will put on the rest of the moorings on the northern Broads in the height of a busy season. With the amount of quay heading that has dissapeared, there must be at least mooring for 20 boats gone with Fleet dike and the Bure thus putting 20 boats more pressure on the rest of the moorings.

Quite a lot of the reed has been cut from the other bank and chanels cut into the reed, unless they where already there and needed trimming back. It seems a funny time of year to be destroying nesting habitat and wildlife havens.

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Gaz, I am with you totally on this whole thing - not just Fleet Dyke but the BA's "ability" to completely trash wildlife habitat, riverbanks etc.

I have questioned before their "scorched earth" policy (as a member on here once so aptly described it). I personally think they have nothing more than a crude hack it back routine and that the work is carried out with very little care, thought or professional land management skills. I am not criticising the workers on the ground btw - just the programme management. What on earth this does to the wildlife is not worth thinking about!

I fully appreciate that the rivers will clog up if cutting back does not take place, but what the BA does is wanton destruction and inexcusable im my eyes.

Strowager referred to the need for regular "trimming back" but no stretch of the imagination can call it this! I have never forgiven the BA for what they did to The Ant - over zealous or vicious, call it what you like but it was never good in my opinion!

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But it's not the BA, it's the Broadland Flood Alleviation Project run by BESL, for the Envirnoment Agency....

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Ok give me a clue where Fleet Dyke is pls.

Not got my maps out yet.

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hi all ,
i agree about fleet dyke , was no real reason to do that much cut back and away with the nice , quiet mooring areas ,
river ant , well i disagree with karen on that issuse , i think they've done a great job over the past few years , it was bad , trees desparately needed cut back , dangerous quey side , timber / metal edges , was in a very bad state , but now looks all nice , safe ,

steve and vicky

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fleet dyke is opposite st bennetsaby leading to st walsham broad

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I agree in principle that things need to be managed and kept in control, tidied up etc but its the totally destructive hacking that I disagree with!

I am aware of  BESL involvement, but I recall being told that all the cutting back and pulling out (of anything that grows) on The Ant a year or two back was down to the BA. If I am wrong, and they had nowt to do with it, I stand corrected. Doesn't make the job done any better though!

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"I recall being told that all the cutting back and pulling out (of anything that grows) on The Ant a year or two back was down to the BA"

No nothing to do with the BA, it was BESL, for the Environment Agency, as this sign beside the Ant in 2006 shows.

I agree it looks "totally destructive", but it isn't just being done to clear the rivers, it's a complete realignment of the river banks, to provide flood protection for the land.


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