The Norfolk BroadsThe Norfolk Broads
Username Password
Norfolk Broads Weather

Mon, 11 Apr 2016 7:20 am BST- Light Rain
5 Day Forecast

Wind 2.0 mph @ 40°
48.0°F/8.89°C Humidity 93% Pressure 29.65 (S)

Welcome to The Norfolk Broads Forum
This is THE Worlds Largest Forum devoted to the Norfolk Broads, here you can discuss issues about the Norfolk Broads. Or just somewhere to chat with others interested in the Norfolk Broads area.

Please Help Support The Norfolk Broads Forum
OR

The Norfolk Broads Forum / Broads Authority Issues / Broads Bill : Commons Debate 7th May 2008
login
join
Graphics Off
Search
Forum Members - Book your Hoseasons holiday today, Just call 0345 498 6296

This is a moderated forum Reply to this DiscussionReply to Discussion | Start new discussionNew Discussion << previous || next >> 
Posted By Discussion Topic: Broads Bill : Commons Debate 7th May 2008

Similar Threads That Might Help :
Broads Bill in Parliament Thursday 7th Feb| Broads Bill in Parliament Thursday 7th Feb| The Bill - A Real Debate| Live debate on Bill| Womack Staithe - Incident Bank Holiday 7th May|

-- Page: 1 2

book mark this topic Printer-friendly Version  send this discussion to a friend  new posts last

SailingSloth
Apr-24-2008 @ 6:56 PM                           Permalink
reply
edit
profile
send p.m.
Forum Regular
Posts: 307
Joined: Nov 2006
SailingSloth
          

Add To Ignore List
With apologies, but cross-posted from a darker place with a little editing for the sake of continuity...

The Blocking Motions tabled by MPs Norman Lamb and Richard Bacon have resulted in the allocation of Parliamentary time for Commons Debate on 7th May.

The blocking motions tabled by the two MPs will automatically become removed with the Commons debate. They will have served their function in forcing the debate, so they come to an end. Therefore, the progress (or not) of the Bill depends entirely on the debate outcome.

Commons majorities being what they are, there isn't much doubt that the Bill will progress to the Lords without further delay, so intending petitioners will need to get their skates on.

The 10-day period for petitioning in the Lords begins the day after the Bill moves from Commons Third Reading to the House of Lords. This could be the day after the Commons Debate, so anyone planning to object needs to move quickly.

But what I find really interesting is the calendar. Norman Lamb's blocking motion is based upon his requirement for direct elections to the BA, or at least representation via local councils. One way or another, a public voice in the BA mechanism. Not really what quangos are about, certainly not this quango. Quangos are all about telling, not asking.

The BA Chief Executive promised to submit these proposals for airing at the BA's main committee meeting in May. May? Seems he didn't feel urged to include it with the March meeting held FOUR WEEKS after the CEO was made aware of Norman Lamb's terms for a 'way forward'. No rush. The BA Chairman witnessed Mr Lamb's terms but he didn't see fit to put them to the March 28th BA meeting either, yet he could have deemed this a matter of urgency and tabled the matter regardless of time available to include it in the agenda (Local Government Act 1972; Section 100B (4) (b) ).

Commons Debate = 7th May.
BA Committee Meeting = 9th May.

Hello?

The Commons debate and the blocking motions will be all over and done well before Mr Lamb gets any kind of answer from the BA.

Chronological coincidence, no doubt.

Yeah, right.

SS

mardler
Apr-24-2008 @ 7:52 PM                           Permalink
reply
edit
profile
send p.m.
Forum Regular
Posts: 359
Joined: May 2005
          

Add To Ignore List
The BA CEO knew, as most of us did, that the likely debate would be mid May thus telling Mr. Lamb that he would put the matter to the BA in June was an obvious ploy.

Here's more confirmation:-

Dear prospective petitioner,

I am sending you this email because you asked to be kept informed about the petitioning period for the Broads Authority Bill. You may well have already noticed that a date for the debate on the third reading of the Bill in the House of Commons was announced this morning. It will be debated on Wednesday 7th May 2008.

If the Bill receives a third reading and is sent to the House of Lords on May 7th then the petitioning period in the House of Lords will begin on Thursday 8th May 2008 and will end on Monday 19th May 2008 at 5pm. If you do wish to petition against the Bill in the House of Lords you must deposit your petition between those dates.

Chris Bolton (Ms)

Private Bill Office , House of Lords, London SW1A 0PW

ACTION NEEDED:- If you intend to petition the Bill ensure that you state clearly how you will be adversely affected and do as Ms. Bolton says.

If you have good reason, do not delay.

This message was edited by mardler on Apr-24-08 @ 7:54 PM

Marshman
May-01-2008 @ 5:48 PM                           Permalink
reply
edit
profile
send p.m.
Mardles sometimes
Posts: 4103
Joined: Oct 2006
Marshman
          

Add To Ignore List
Its strange that this post has had so little attention given the fact that the 3rd Reading and debate will now take place.
My guess is that following the debate it will be nodded through to the House of Lords

Boatboy
May-02-2008 @ 10:08 AM                           Permalink
reply
edit
profile
send p.m.
Mardles sometimes
Posts: 3908
Joined: Apr 2005
Boatboy
          

Add To Ignore List
The Bill will almost certainly go to the House of Lords after a very short debate. Those MP's who have opposed it will have the opportunity to state why but it is unlikely that it will even need a vote, I understand it can continue without one if there is not sufficient objection raised in the house at the time of the debate.

Regards

Paul

"coots forever"

"and ever"

mardler
May-02-2008 @ 1:47 PM                           Permalink
reply
edit
profile
send p.m.
Forum Regular
Posts: 359
Joined: May 2005
          

Add To Ignore List
Anyone minded to petition has only this weekend & next to prepare and perfect their document. It must be deposited no later than 10 days after passing to the Lords.

Get to work!

(I am also disappointed at the seeming lack of attention to the matter here, Marshman.)

middlin
May-02-2008 @ 2:15 PM                           Permalink
reply
edit
profile
send p.m.
Forum Regular
Posts: 930
Joined: Aug 2007
middlin
          

Add To Ignore List
Possibly People are already in the throes of compiling their replies to the house of lords so not posting on here

Fair t Middlin

It's not the fall that kills you it's the sudden stop

andrewleighcook
May-03-2008 @ 10:02 AM                           Permalink
reply
edit
profile
send p.m.
Forum Regular
Posts: 686
Joined: Nov 2006
          

Add To Ignore List
Hi I've just had a thought on this subject as to this Councils elections could this stop the Broads Bill or will it get the nod to go through to the House of Lords?
Andrew.

osdguy
May-03-2008 @ 11:24 AM                           Permalink
reply
edit
profile
send p.m.
Been Posting For a Long Time
Posts: 1738
Joined: Jul 2005
osdguy
          

Add To Ignore List
Council elections will have no impact whatsoever on the Bill.

regards

Marc (stinky owner & rag n stick appreciator) & Karen (rag n stick)

jill_R
May-03-2008 @ 2:11 PM                           Permalink
reply
edit
profile
send p.m.
Forum Regular
Posts: 587
Joined: Feb 2005
jill_R
          

Add To Ignore List
not everyone is able to trawl through paperwork like the broads bill and have the back ground knowledge to recognise the arguments and put forward a valid and articulate argument

with out guide lines to agree or disagree with from those that do, there is little hope

as those that are putting forward an argument are reluctant to share their knowledge in case it hinders their case, i guess there will be a low number of petitions

there are uninformed people, but does that mean they deserve to have there rights taken away from them?

those that can, please do and the rest of us are very gratefull im sure

jill

rboa.org.uk
residential boat ownwers

This message was edited by jill_R on May-3-08 @ 2:17 PM

JennyMorgan
May-03-2008 @ 8:19 PM                           Permalink
reply
edit
profile
send p.m.
Mudplug Juggler
Posts: 14666
Joined: Nov 2005
JennyMorgan
          

Add To Ignore List
I would like to echo Jill's comments. Not every one is able to articulate their feelings, nor, perhaps, are sufficiently aware of all the problems.

Jenny Morgan,

Ha' yar fa'r got a dicky, bor?

PAGE: 1 2

Home Photo Gallery Days Afloat Contact Us
Chat Room Downloads Norfolk Broads @ Amazon Make My Logo
Shops & Businesses Members Gear Norfolk Broads @ EBay Holiday Calendar
Pub Guide Tide Tables SOS List Popular Threads
2017 Calendar Contest Make A Donation Links Hireboat Info
Norfolk Broads @ CafePress FAQ Broads Quiz Forum Events
Advertise With Us Forum Shop Boating Bits Stickys and FAQs Boating Bits Hirecraft List

 

 

 



Copyright © 2005 Y2KInternet, All Rights Reserved.