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Manko
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Interestingly there are a couple of issues to report this week for those with an eye on the ball.

Firstly a moribund vessel sunk near the railway bridge at the 'city; end of Thorpe Island on Sunday evening.  Hugh, Dew, Barney McGrew and co.  were 'scrambled' but after an aborted attempt to launch their emergency vessel (towed behind a fire engine as if off on holiday) a Thorpe Island resident lent his tender to them, and off they went to investigate.

Rumour tells me that a gas explosion may have occurred which ignited the heap.  The river did the rest.

Just a little note to reassure any impartial observers, this 'craft' was nothing whatsoever to do with Thorpe Island.  It may well have been towed there by the Broads Authority when boats were evicted from behind the Waterfront.  Did it have a Boat Safety Certificate?  I don't know, also don't know if it was taxed.  I'll be asking on monday night at a meeting with the Brads Authority, more of which in a minute.

Presumably it was illegally moored, although I don't know that one for sure.  My friendly mole tells me that it had been a liveaboard, although there doesn't appear to have been anyone on board at the time of ignition.  I certainly wouldn't have wanted to have been there!

What I'd like to know is why are my friends being harassed on the south side of Thorpe island, whereas this floating bomb was allowed to exist seemingly untouchable by the BA?  What exactly are their priorities?

I digress.  The Broads Authority have called a meeting to discuss 'residential mooring and planning policy framework' with residents of Thorpe Island at The Cranworth Room, Norfolk County Hall on Monday 28th January from 6.00pm-8.00pm.

I quote:  "The meeting has been organised by the planning policy team in order to explain the planning policy process, answer queries relating to residential vessels in the Broads, and feedback comments to the Authority.  It also aims to answer the questions which may have been raised previously.  Several Members will also be at the meeting to listen to the comments made".

By the sounds of it anyone who is a liveaboard ought to attend this meeting, not just us at Thorpe Island who were mailed 'invitations', as the implications of whatever the BA might be planning spread far and wide, and this might be your only chance to get any opinion across.

Just thought you ought to know...

And if you do attend the meeting, do say hello!



Dare to Be Different...

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Good luck, Manko. It is an issue that concerns us all, even those of who do not like 'new age mariners' cluttering up the banks with detritus. I agree that there has to be control, at a reasonable level. But lots of decent, ordinary folk like to live on their boats, and why not?

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hi manko

just to confirm the venue for the BA residential boaters meeting.

the cranworth room, county hall,  martineau roundabout.

from 6.00pm - 8.00pm.


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i returned from a BA meeting re residential boat moorings in good spirits this evening as there seemed

to be a glimmer of hope that the BA were willing to take residential boaters views into consideration.

rex waldon the vise chair of the rboa drove down from burton on trent for the meeting and will be writing a report in the next copy of "soundings" the rboa mag.

the ten year local plan 1997 is at the moment being rewritten including what was policy H 10 pertaining to residential use.

anyone with a hope to one day retire onto a boat on the broads is advised to contact the BA and give them there views in writing

by letter or email before 5pm on 11th feb

email: LDF@broads-authority.gov.uk

or write to.............

Planning and Strategy Direktorate, Broads Authority, 18 Colgate, Norwich NR3 1BQ

i logged on to NBF to see if there were any comments on the meeting to be hit by news of Jenny Morgans resignation.

a sad day indead after all the good work on our behalf that Jenny (Pete) has put in.

it took the wind out of my sails ( not easy for a stinky ) and brought me down to earth.  


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Jill, all is far from lost. The BA is in for a rough ride in the House of Lords. They are not getting things all their own way, and if the Doctor wishes to hang on to his extremely lucrative job then he HAS to start listening. You guys, and gals, have to do your bit by helping get rid of the extreme dossers that are dragging livaboards down, and everybody tidying their act up. Personally I think that the corner could have been turned.

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Jill, I must add that the BA will have their hand forced on this issue by circumstance. For example at Oulton Broad right now are a couple of really interesting boats, one ex Dutch, the other ex French. Both are livaboards who intend to cruise but will inevitably spend long periods of time at one location. It is a growing trend and can't be ignored.

Bear in mind that some of the purpose built livaboard boats cost in excess of a quarter of a million pounds, it is a growth area that is being driven by money as folk sell up and retire to the water, the BA can not ignore it. It could provide retirement accommodation, as well as first time homes for boaty types.
But it needs to be attractive, and there lies the crux  of the matter, some of it isn't. Outright down and outs are not helping your cause, or their own for that matter!

Jenny Morgan,
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I for one do not blame the BA for being VERY CAUTIOUS on this one.
JM, as usual, pretty much hits the nail on the head.
Unfortunately wherever house boats are allowed the free-loaders, dossers and general undesirables swarm like bees around a honey pot. Not a very PC comment I realise, but the truth never the less.
I doubt that anyone really objects to properly controlled and planned living on the water. Decent people leading clean and tidy lives and paying their dues. I would certainly support that policy.
If the BA is to go down this line it needs strong, effective and quick controls to enable it to nip any problems instantly in the bud.
In the meantime I support their efforts to remove illegals from the waters.  

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Someone pointed out last week that there were to be new "floating" houses in Oulton Broad.

Surely these are liveaboards. Surely for the size that they look to be they would need planning approval. Surely this would fall under the BA.

Have they given the go ahead for these things to be built? If so, "making a rod for their own backs" comes to mind.



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Was it Oulton Broad or Lake Lothing?

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Here lies the problem, seen on Oulton Broad. People think that living on a boat is a cheap option, it isn't. They need constant attention, especially those old wooden boats that are kept afloat.

Jenny Morgan,
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