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Apr-29-2016 @ 11:33 PM                           Permalink
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Hi all

sorry to make my first message such an 'unsavoury' one but I was wondering if anyone could offer advice as to what is and isn't acceptable regarding going to the toilet when sleeping aboard a small dinghy on the broads.
I'm hoping to trailer my own little boat over this year for a week's onboard camping but as I don't have a toilet onboard I'll be using a bucket and I don't know what the rules say about disposing of stuff afterwards.
Do I need to store it on board and then find somewhere ashore for it? I'm almost certain that's the right thing to do but where would I take it?
Are there any purpose built facilities for this sort of thing or do I just take it to public toilets?

Sorry if these are stupid questions which may seem obvious but I just don't know for sure what is the 'done thing' when spending several nights on a small dinghy under a boom tent. I have a bucket to use as my toilet,  but then what?
I want to do this responsibly.

Thanks very much

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Tricky one this, but when I used to teach expedition skills to Scouts, part of their kit includes a trowel. Dig a hole deep enough to bury it and get a good cover of soil over the top. Find some twigs and fashion a small cross to use as a marker. Anyone seeing the small cross would hopefully use their loaf and not dig in the same place.

Unsavoury I know, but it will decompose over a period of time.

Steve. CM1 and NR12

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Do you say a little prayer over it too.  LOL

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Apr-30-2016 @ 7:47 AM                           Permalink
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Welcome to the forum by the way springer 5.:-)

My old Lab had a canister of poo bags that clipped on to his collar. ..just a thought?

Sorry x



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Apr-30-2016 @ 8:21 AM                           Permalink
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Your first priority has to be to use shore-based facilities, on a sitting down basis, whenever possible.  There are some public facilities around but they are always being eyed for closure as a cost saving measure.  Ludham Bridge, Horning, Hoveton Ranworth Staite all come to mind.  Others on here will know the up to date status.  You can of course use pubs and cafes to eat and use the facilities.

If I had to dispose of 'solids' my own idea would be:

Remember the public toilets may be on a septic tank / cess-pit, system so never use any formaldyhide based toilet fluids, as they will the micro-biology.

Take cleaning products and air freshener with you and leave the toilet cleaner than when you have arrived.

Finally I'm sure there are specialist holding/disposal camping products associated with 'bog in box'/'bog in a bag' that may help.  Or perhaps nappy sacks that parents use for kids.

Have fun.

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I have done this sort of sailing before on the Broads but always seemed to manage with public loos and my fairly frequent visits to pubs.
However take one of the suggestions already mentioned in case of emergencies....

Arguably the trip that you are planning is the very best way to see Broadland. You will be able to access places that most cannot get near and will have the very best sleeping zones at you disposal. Assuming that you will have a mud weight or anchor. You cannot fail to enjoy it. Subject of course to a bit of decent weather...

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If the waste is produced on a boating holiday, it probably is now classed as commercial, in which case you would probably need to save it up and take it home at the end of your visit to Norfolk.

Have a nice trip. Hope this hasn't put you off.

Cheers


Steve

Old enough to know better.

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Apr-30-2016 @ 10:33 PM                           Permalink
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Don't tempt the local councils with such ideas Steveo.
I have a fair few dealings with local authorities and you would be surprised just how far they will go to extract a few quid out of all and sundry... Anything to protect their bureaucracies...

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Hi all

Thanks to everyone for your replies.

I must admit to being a little surprised that,  with such an emphasis on maintaining broads ecology,  the same authorities who want tourists to be responsible aren't providing purpose built facilities which help them to be so.

I've never really been much of a pub/cafe/shops/towns sort of person and my main reason for visiting the broads in a small boat is,  as someone here said,  to go to all the places other people can't and spend all my time at those places.
I'd be happy to drop off my sealed up waste every few days at a suitable facility, and be quite prepared to pay for it (much like the cruisers who have their holding tanks emptied I suppose except my holding tank is separate from the boat)

Some less conscience folks discovering that the authorities 'can't be bothered' to provide for this type of tourist/visitor may well be excused for saying to themselves 'if their not bothered neither am I' and just chucking it over the side anyway.

nevertheless. ... I am determined to avoid doing that if at all possible and hopefully with the really useful advice offered by you good folks I'll manage by using the shore based facilities (at some of the Staithes probably as I won't fancy going into a 'heaving'  potter Heigham or similar on my 'get away from it all' holiday).

Thanks again everyone for offering some useful advice.

As a final thought I wonder what the likes or Hunters recommend when they hire out their half deckers over multi day period and are told by their customers that they'll be overnighting on them. Is it irresponsible to hire such craft out on such a basis when their are no official facilities to support their use?
Anyway that's another question for another time. Thanks again.

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Springer,
While I heartily commend your proactive and considerate question, I think you'd be quite safe (if some of the more sensible suggestions above aren't easily achievable) to simply bucket and chuck it.

I would certainly avoid chemicals for the good reasons stated and would restrict performances to the less-populated areas, but anticipate anyone prepared to sail-camp will be looking for natural beauty rather than camp outside the pub every night...

Don't overlook the fact that several hundred yachts use sea toilets and simply pump it overboard anyway, where it joins the hundreds of tons of similar substances produced by fish, fowl and other wildlife.....

Good call, but don't worry about it; on the grand scale it's not even measurable, any more than peeing behind a bush on a country walk....

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