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londonrascal
Aug-18-2013 @ 5:54 PM                           Permalink
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Hello,

Welcome to the forum too.

It is fine to ask anything, and being nervous is something which in my mind gets worse the more you think and plan and worry.  

Now you talk about going next August, so there is a lot of time to think ahead and book this year a boat that otherwise closer to the time next year will be booked – you will also pay this years prices, and be able to pay a  small deposit now and put aside the money so that will help finances.

Feel free to join in here, ask anything – detailed, or simple there is never a stupid question.  

What I would suggest though, is since the weather of late is nice (and I am not sure how far you live from the Broads) why not drive here – or even let the train take the strain – and have a day out?  You can bring a nice picnic, hire a small day boat and get a real taster of things.  If you did not want to hire your own dayboat, you could take a trip boat from say Wroxham and have a look at the boatyards – if it is not change over time many would be happy to let you have a look-see at the boats that are in the yard.

Either of the above will mean you can both decide if a week’s holiday on a boat is what you want – you might go back home thinking that it was great and you can’t wait to helm  your own ‘floating home’ – or decide actually it was a lovely experience, but boating might not be for you – in which case you might prefer to hire a waterside property where you get up close and personal to the river but everything stays still and no worries about mooring and ropes.

Truthfully when it comes to boating there is nothing to be nervous and worried about – as long as you take your time and are safe – and that means the person doing the mooing and the person at the wheel to both have on their lifejackets when mooring up – never jump off or on a boat or leap from the boat to the bank – there is never a rush, if the wind makes the boat drift away from the bank you go around again.   I get worried about ‘cocking up’ a mooring, and it is that which what you will find yourself thinking of more than ropes and correct knots and the like – but if you do it well after a bit you will be flushed with pride and think “year we did it”.

You can click my link below to the ‘Captain’s Blogs’ where I have playlists of each boat I have hired and you can get an idea of what different boats interiors are like, and places I have visited.

I'd recommend this video [Click Here] as you will see the way controls work and average way a boat is laid out for while they may differ in size and style much of the things inside are going to be the same.

It is truly a great holiday and unlike anything you will have done before and it only takes a week for many people to ‘get hooked’ and come back time and time again.

So maybe try a day out on the water for as taster, but for sure don’t worry about doing things right, using the right terms to call things it is not a test its a holiday after all Smile


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Aug-18-2013 @ 6:02 PM                           Permalink
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Browny...welcome. Cheers

You'll be fine, just take things easy and if you're not sure...ask. We don't bite...well not all the time  Playful



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Choosing a boat.
A forward driving position with front well is certainly good, with great access for mooring, and deploying the Mud Weight ( anchor for broads etc), but, because there is very little boat in front of you, it is very difficult to see what the stern is doing, and trying to steer a straight course is quite difficult for the first few days with Newbies, and when seen from astern, they seem to wiggle from side to side, they do suffer from "over steering"  But after a few days this is no longer the case, so keep with it, you will soon be fine.

"Oversteering" is caused by the driver turning the wheel, sees that nothing happens straight away, so turns more, eventually the boat turns too far and now the driver is frantically trying to steer the other way to compensate and thus the cycle continues, with the wheel being turned both ways.

To overcome this, be aware that it takes a few seconds for the heavy boat to start to turn, so if there is space and you are not steering to avoid any obstructions, only turn the wheel about a hand width or two, at a time, wait, see what happens.
This will help to keep the boat on a straight course.
Certainly the right technique for following the course of a river.

Hope this helps.

A rear cockpit cruiser
means that you can see what the front is doing, and you can aim the boat better in the first instance, but if it has a canopy, can be a real pain to put up and take down between showers. That's what we have on our boat.
Also access to mooring up can be more difficult as you have to deal with the canopy and some of the smaller rear cockpit cruisers from Barns Brinkcraft that are shaped like a pair of trainers, or one shoe in this instance, have a rear platform, but I cannot see it being easy to get ashore when coming alongside, as it is very low and narrow on this particular design. I have seen people struggle where the banks are high, eg at Acle at low tide.

There are centre cockpit cruisers, but they tend to be for 4 or more people, and tend to be bigger too.

If you have an idea of the chosen boat, let us know and I am sure someone would have hired it, and tell you the pros and cons.

This is quite exciting choosing your first boat.
Will Hubby be aware, or is it going to be a surprise?
Does he like fishing etc, some boats are better than others, some like the front steering, front well boats can provide more weather protection, and you can still be together.


Hope this helps.

best regards, Richard.
I can't wait to be back on our boat on
the Broads.

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Hi Browney,
It is really helpful to hire a boat that has a bow thruster. This is a great aid for mooring up/parking, leaving moorings and turning the boat around.

For more information Please click here

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Alan...
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Hi Browny & welcome to the forum.
As a relative newby (first trip 2011 but have already been 3 times) I would concur with all that's been said. From my own experience I would just like to add 3 things.
Firstly, when considering a boat don't do as I did & tend to go for a cheap one as they are usually older & although O.K. don't always give the comfort needed to fully enjoy your first trip.
Secondly, as soon as possible after leaving the yard,if you can get onto one of the broads where there is more room than the rivers,have 1/2 an hour just practising steering & getting used to controlling the boat. Seeing how easy it can be will give you confidence in more confined areas.
Lastly, re oversteering, I found the best way to minimise this is just to use fingertips on the wheel & apply gentle pressure whilst keeping in mind response takes a couple of seconds.
I'm sure you'll manage & like the rest of us, become addicted to this wonderful way of holidaying

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Alan

Can I just say your website is also a place of excellent tips for the novice and new hirers. Wish I had found it before our first trip, I may not have ended up on my backside covered in mud outside the ferry inn by the reedham chain ferry. Didn't realise wood can be so slippery and how strong the flow is there Wink . Mooring with the tide behind you isn't the best thing to try on your first trip, or any trip come to think of it.
Some great advice and very useful bits on there, especially the pub map, the B A moorings and the distance calculator have come in very handy - keep up the good work
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Brownie if you're looking for a centre cockpit boat & there's only two of you then I can reccomend Bronze Emblem from ferry marina. It's only a 2 berth & for a craft that size to be only a 2 berth means you have LOTS of room. Being a centre cockpit you won't suffer from oversteer & the boat handles like an absolute dream. It doesn't have how thrusters as has been advised but honestly the boat handles that well you won't need them. Being ferry marina the price you pay is all inclusive so no insurances or fuel to worry about.
We used to do the canals & were nervous the first time we took the controls of a broads cruiser, but after about 20 mins we really wondered what we were worrying about.
I know it's a cliche but it really is the fastest way to slow down & if you don't do it, it's something you'll regret. Honestly.

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Welcome and enjoy your Holiday, You've been intelligent enough to worry about it and come on here to ask questions, thousands who go on the broads have no clue and don't ask questions but they survive OK.
so just ask away here  then enjoy the Broads.
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If you are at all nervous about driving the boat, manoeuvres and mooring up I would like to suggest that you or anyone for that matter thinks very carefully about the yard from which they hire. I've just finished an almost month long stint on the boat (yes I know that's jammy), I've covered both parts of the broads extensively and have noticed significant patterns in the the boats which are well handled and those which are not. Now I know that some of it will be down to the individual's ability to listen and follow advice and also conditions such as weather etc will often play a part however, when you see 4 boats from a small yard (almost half their fleet I suspect) make foolish and frankly dangerous mooring manoeuvres in less than a 12 hour time period you have question their standard of tuition. Conversely when moored close to another hire yard on turn round day I witnessed a very thorough trial run where the hirer was made to do a side on mooring in a gap no more than ten feet longer than the boat and then moored stern on before manoeuvring in the middle of the river.
On chatting with someone who had hired from one of the larger yards I was horrified to find out that the poor woman had asked for more help after her trial run as she was nervous about causing damage to her vessel or one belonging someone else. She was given another ten minutes (a repeat of the first) and then told that there was nothing more they could do for her. She was then sent away to 'enjoy' her holiday, which she was still finding incredibly stressful three days later  as a result of the lack of help from the yard.
I'm sure that those forum members who have hired from a greater range of yards will be able point you in the direction of quality tuition. I know where I would send someone based on what I've seen. And I also know which yards I wouldn't touch with somebody else's barge pole!

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