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Having introduced myself in the "New Members" forum and after scouring the forums for advice tips etc. I want to know a little more about the do's and don'ts when using the mud weight, particularly when mooring overnight.

To give you some background info. first, our group comprises four adults (two guys, two girls (both well over 40!)and we have hired Fair Admiral - (Wroxham) for the first week in November 08. The boat will not go under any of the famous old bridges in the Northern Broads.

I pretty sure at that time of year most sensible hirers will be back at home so mooring availability should be pretty good. Nonetheless, should we find the need/desire to use the mud weight, what are the associated BIG NO NO's?

Do you inevitably get covered in cr*p when stowing the mud weight or are there some tips to avoid this?

Do mud weights ever get stuck fast due to suction?

If you are stern moored, should you always use a mud weight from the bow (you see I'm really getting a hang of these nautical terms
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Any thoughts/advice would be welcomed.

Many thanks

Simon



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You do not get covered in mud when stowing the mud weight if, when you lift it, you leave it and any muddy rope just below the surface of the water. You can fully retrieve it after a mile or so.
Sometimes a mud weight can be difficult to retrieve if it has been deployed correctly and is deep in the mud, but just moving the boat on the engine a short distance will free it off.
Whether you deploy the mud weight or not will depend on where you are. In strong tides or high winds the mud weight should be used when stern moored although they are of limited use if there is no mud on the bottom.
If you wish to swing on the mud weight in a broad, you would be advised to make sure no really high winds are forcast.
Always throw the mud weight in so it sinks into the mud, lowering it in carefully will make it easier to get out but equally it could drag.
Leave plenty of rope to swing on, do not have the rope tight.

Hope this helps, it works for me. Have a good holiday.

Edited to add, Don't forget to make sure it is tied to the boat before you throw it in.


Charlie

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Charlie, many thanks for the quick response.

Very useful information which I will remember to use during our trip.

Kind regards

Simon

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Wise words from Charlie there. the other big  thing is to make sure the rope if free before you drop it in. Could cause nasty injuy if it was round your leg etc.  Also pulling them out is a back hazard, very difficult to use safe lifting techniques, maybe both guys together, lobbing it in makes it stick harder, only useful if it is a bit windy, and don't forget what Charlie said use the boat engine to break the suction, the boat will drag the weight no problem just ask all the people who have travelled a few miles with the weight down. Hands up wh hasn't done that Playful Wink

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...also, whether you lob it in or lower it over the bow, let go of the rope! Rope burns are extremely painful. You might consider wearing a pair of gardening gloves when deploying and retrieving the weight.

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A plastic Polytex, paint, popcorn or Col.Sanders tub of appropriate size to dump the raised mudweight in saves a lot of mess on the deck but dont expect it to stay on the deck if the weight is not in it. Playful Wink

Bill...(The Ancient Mardler)

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Whatever the wind direction most Broads will offer some kind of shelter. The leaves may be on the trees still,just about, but even in a biggish boat the depth of water will generally be enough to nudge right under the lee of the reeds/trees/bushes. Although winds can change direction and make it a little awkward always try to get close to shelter perhaps leaving some room for a change of wind direction.

However I must admit I rarely even do that especially if it is very sheltered spot - often November can bring still weather and you should be able to make a judgment. If it is blowing a real hoolie tie up on a sheltered spot - there will be plenty of choice at that time with few boats about although if the same as 2007, halfterm was very late and it was busier then.

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Thanks for all the replies.

Regards

Simon


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