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Thanks for the warning Paladine to many about these days

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Many thanks Paladine for the tip.   Cheers

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I've not come across this scam before, so thanks for the warning.

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Thanks for that Pally. Rarely do I get anything that's doing the rounds, but this one has just turned up on my phone. Duely deleted.

Steve. CM1 and NR12

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My business email address gets thousands of these. We have several email address so we see a pattern of the same email being sent to several email addresses at once. That helps the detection process. It can be relatively easy to be caught if you are not alert. So far, we've been lucky.

One of the common fraud attempts (I feel 'scam' somehow dilutes the seriousness of the attempted crime) is a supposed contact from a carrier suggesting that they are trying to deliver a package. Easy to be caught if you are waiting for a package and are not alert to the attempted fraud.

This is one of the reasons I changed to the Linux operating system. If we accidentally click on a fraudulent email to download an attachment, we would not harmed by a virus intended for a Windows environment.

Unfortunately, the Police are not interested in publicising the huge amount of fraudulent emails. If everybody was aware of them, people would not get caught and the crooks would have to think of something else!

I've had people pretending to be the AA telephone me to "renew" my membership. I've had people pretending to be from credit card companies telephone me with instant "offers". I'm so cynical now that I don't trust anybody that I don't know. I always check the full headers of email to make sure that they are not forged.

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This evening is the first chance I've had to look into this scam in greater depth.
Clicking on the link does, as Paladine says, download a virus onto your computer. This virus is in the form of Ransomware.
False invoices are accompanied by a link that redirects the user to a malicious file that hijacks user data, encrypting all files and offering recovery code only in exchange for a sum of money.
In light of Spanish holidays being taken at this time of year it is possible that you may receive such an email and believe it to be something to do with your holiday in Spain.

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I get emails from someone who has been dead for 3 years which BT don't seem to be able to do anything about, I also get multiple offers from A1 companies I don't deal with, thats apart from the FBI, HMRC and uncle Tom Cobbley telling me I have been allocated Millions of dollars, pounds etc.

Simple answer if its not in response to something I have initiated I just delete them.

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If I receive any e-mail that for instance requests me to log into a bank account or anything that looks to be an attempt to commit fraud of any type I forward the e-mail to
nfibphishing@city-of-london.pnn.police.uk

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>>>  I forward the e-mail to
nfibphishing@city-of-london.pnn.police.uk  <<<
Which, unfortunately is a complete waste of time. I have had several long and acrimonious discussions with the police, who have now finally admitted to me that an outside company simply electronically scans all the emails and logs them.

I have forwarded thousands of fraudulent emails to City Of London Police, a great many of them being "spiked" with a text by me asking for a simple response - to prove that the email has been seen and read. I have NEVER received a response. When challenged, the Police finally admitted that no human ever reads these emails. The main reason for asking people to forward the emails is to present the "feel-good" factor - i.e. one feels that "something" will be done about the email that has been forwarded to the Police. Forget it! The department 'Action Fraud' in City of London Police is WIDELY known now as IN-Action Fraud! - because they do NOTHING!

The Police have a well rehearsed plan for dealing with persistent complainers such as me, when I question whether or not they actually DO do anything about the 80 million pounds lost to the internet frauds in the UK each year. (Police figures - not mine). they individualise and quote isolated incidents to justify their reluctance to do the job they are paid (by us) to do.

When officers have, on my insistence visited our premises to discuss another 1,000 or so fraudulent emails I've received, they become extremely clever at acting dumb - to such a point that I once said "you really don't know enough about the internet to discuss this!" When they readily agreed to that, I suddenly realised that I had been duped again by THEM - They were off the hook and could chalk up another victory in work avoidance.

The Police do NOT want to get involved with internet fraud. Their persistent inventiveness in creating excuses why they "cannot deal with it" is probably fraudulent itself. I have spent the last three or four years trying to get hundreds of different types of internet fraud made public so that people don't get caught. I tried contacting our MP.  What happened ???  My letter was forwarded to the Police. - The very organisation I was complaining about.

Our Police Service used to be wonderful! Unfortunately now, whilst the Beat Bobby does his/her best under very arduous conditions, the more senior police seem to spend their time plotting work avoidance.

Sorry to rant on about this but it has been a thorn in my side for 4 or 5 years that Internet fraud is on the increase and it so easy to significantly reduce by publicly warning people. For some reason the Police Crime Prevention section don't want to Prevent Crime!!!

Yours, in total 'head banging on a brick wall' frustration.

Malc.

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Jun-23-2016 @ 12:03 PM                           Permalink
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Most scam emails originate overseas and as there is no international cyber law (as yet) that all countries must abide by, the police may believe it is a waste of time as no prosecution will ever take place.
I forward all scam bank emails to the banks themselves; others I just delete without opening.
Sometimes I will look at the source code to see what the contents are and use the meta data to see where it originated from.
With virtually all such emails it is easy to identify scam ones by reading the message. Poor grammar, spelling mistakes, use of both UK and US spelling of words, upper case and lower case letters used incorrectly are just some of the ways to tell fake from real.


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Hi DaveHR,

Exactly what we do as well Smile .  Trouble is, when I contact the Police they witter on about the frauds coming from Russia, Romania, Bulgaria etc., etc. and they say that they cannot pursue the criminals over there. That is very true!

However, my understanding of the phrase "Crime Prevention" is probably too simple f'or the police! My understanding of Crime Prevention is 'to take steps to reduce or eliminate a crime from taking place. The most simple and effective way with these email frauds is publicity!!!  

Almost everybody knows about the dangers of carbon monoxide because it has been well and truly publicised by interested authorities. Very occasionally there is an accident or somebody makes a mistake but generally everybody takes precautions and remains safe.

The Police, however NEVER publish any information warning people about the masses of Fraudulent emails flooding the internet (My business receives over 6,000 per year and rising).

People ARE getting caught and fleeced. The crooks would not continue if the fraud was not working. The Police do NOTHING to prevent these frauds.

You and I have the ability to read email headers and look at source code in attachments inside the security of a virtual system if necessary. The vast majority of people would not have that ability and if conditions are right - they get caught and fleeced. I really don't know how we can force the Police into doing something that will reduce the £80,000,000 lost each year in the UK to Internet Fraud.

Thanks for your input. It is appreciated.

Kind regards,

Malcolm

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