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Heyup again you lovely informative talkative bunch.

We are after your experience / advice yet again. I have being researching warm air diesel heaters for Broad Ambition as we now need to get a system installed as some of the ducting runs will soon not be easily accessable. We are leaning towards a Mikuni M30 3:5kw with 5 outlets. I have looked at the Webasto and Eberspacher also. I have followed the threads from E/boat-Steve and all the others that I can find. One thing is sorted - we are going for a new unit NOT secondhand. The Mikuni kit / outfit will cost us about £1'400. Anyone of you have any reason for us to avoid Mikuni at all?

Thanking you in advance yet again.

Griff (Project Manager)

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Here's a few, service, parts, many engineers unfimiliarity & lack of diagnostic equipment and the fact that you can get a brand new Webo with 1.5kw more power for about the same money if you buy right.
All that said Mikuni is however generaly no more or less efficient/reliable than the 2 major players.


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We have a Webo unit, which is 2 years old and is running without any problems, it does need a good battery charge to get it going but after it's started it runs OK

I have never needed a service engineer so can't comment on the seervice support aspect

I am thinking about running a branch up to demist the windscreen.


Alan & Gill

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Interesting one this.

I am at present looking to have heating fitted to our craft in the next 4-6 weeks and thanks to David (Antares_9) who kindly sent me information and manuals on both Webo & Ebo systems I have virtually decided to go with the Webo Airtop 3500 with 4 outlets.

I had not considered Mikuni.

I have considered doing the job myself but don't think I am up to it and don't want to 'bodge' our new boat.

Am I better going to a Webo dealer and getting them to fit it (presumably they subcontract) or buying and asking a local yard to fit it. Any recomendations on yards?

Many Thanks

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Perry

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Hi Perry, hows the new ship behaving, my reccomendation for what it's worthis JPC, not the Wroxham lot, the guys at ABP marina at Lowestoft they are a relatively new set up and I am most impressed by thier skills and equaly importantly thier attitude to customer service, they are webasto dealers. Instead of the standard rotary heat control a timed one makes getting out of your berth or arriving at the boat a much more pleasant experience. Insist on thinsulate lagging for the trunking as it increases efficiency no end. (tll them I sent you and they'll charge you double) Smile

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Thanks David appreciated.

So far so good with the Boat not had much of a chance yet to test our out thoroughly.

I'll have a look at the timed unit that sounds great. I'll give Lowestoft a call.

I can't get down south this weekend as time is limited but I still owe you that beer or two when I catch up with you.

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Perry

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Hi Griff, we fitted a Mikuni 3.5kw about 5 years ago, we went for 4 outlets and lagged all the pipework, we have not had any problems with it since fitting it.We fitted it ourself's  over a weekend no problem, I would have no problem in recommending fitting one of these.

Robin.

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Hi All and thanks so far,

David - Woods Dyke at Horning are main agents / service engineers for the Mikuni range. with regards to cost we now have the unit kit price quoted down to £1'230, including an extra 2m of ducting 1 x more 'Y' branch and 1 x more Outlet. We are still searching hoping to get the price down some more. Ref Thinsulate lagging - good idea - where do obtain it to suit 80mm ducting ??

Perry - if you want more information regarding the mikuni range including fitting instructions / manuals / technical data etc then visit:-
www.mikuniheating.com

Robin - Lagging - never thought of that, what type would you reccommend and where do I get it from?

Thanks again chaps - keep it coming

Griff
(Broad Ambition - Project Manager)

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Hi The Mikuni guys should be able to get it, possibly Mikuni do thier own brand, if not then any Ebo or Webo dealer can get it for you.

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David

At 7pm the old cook came on deck saying "Fellas it's too rough to feed ya" at 11pm the main hatchway caved in, he said "fellas it's been good to know ya"

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Sorry to head off at a tangent here but I have never heard the Wallas heaters mentioned.

It depends on your priorities but if battery power/condition is important the Wallas is worth a look at.

My parents live aboard a yacht in the summer. They may be in one place for a week or more so the domestic battery can get some hammer. So that they don't have to run the engine more than they have to my Dad fitted a Wallas heater purely because it uses about half the power of the Eberspacher, which was designed for lorry cabs and power isn't a problem.

the -ve,  The wallas is more expensive I believe. The one he has runs on paraffin, so separate fuel is required.

the +ve, uses less power, is quieter.


Cheers Bob.

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