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Lopez
Oct-22-2021 @ 9:36 AM                           Permalink
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Hi everyone, first post here

I got myself an Horizon 35 which is a bit of an ugly duckling, an unloved wreck by all accounts but i can see the beauty tha it can potentially be, and so i'm starting overhauling and refitting it as of this week.

To make it more interesting, while i'm pretty skilled at most that needs doing i dont have much clue of boats specifically, so mght annoy you guys a little with what you may deem to be silly/dumb questions. My advanced apologies. Haha

Anyway, one of the things in this boat that looks brand new is the water tank, but its location and shape takes a hell of a lot of real space which i'd rather use for something else (it's a saddle tank that looks cutsom shaped but it doesn't reach the cill/decking level and it comes out a fair bit into the middle of the boat)so looking at my options to replace it to one fitted more like the diesel tank which fits neatly under the cill on the opposite side.

So the questions, is there anyway that used tanks can be had from salvaged boats by any chance? If having to order one, any options out there other than Jay Wolfe which is eye-wateringly expensive and the only that comes uo in my search?

Also, How do you go about measuring and quoting the hull's curvature? Anyone by any chance got measurements of these tanks by any chance?

And lastly, anyone interested in a swap? Not got the measurements here (other than it being massive) but will measure if there's any interest. As i sais it looks brand new, and lays more like a bed/box (sorry for the clueless terminology) rather than upright.

Thanks!  

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Oct-22-2021 @ 2:31 PM                           Permalink
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Hi Lopez You dont say where the boat is, You can have a stainless steel fabricated or a plastic one from E M P F ph 01616266080.  do not use mild steel 10gall to the sq ft is capacity it must be on bearers not leaning on the hull you will need a 3/4"vent on top a 2"filler and a 3/4" out let in the bottom, you may need a baffle on inside to stop slamming,   boat items often seem dear that's because they have to be made out of non corrosive materials. John

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Thanks Annville, I'll give them a phone call on Monday to see my options. Thinking cutting this one down and/or re relocating the inlets and outlets might make it fit somewhere better but unlikely doing that will be much cheaper.

Yes I know the cost and involved in getting them made so not moaning (too much about the price). Just I didn't budget an extra grand it two for a water tank as I stupidly assumed it was in the 'normal' place and didn't think about checking under the bed

Original fittings and inlets are still there unused where it used to be, so fitting won't be an issue

For reference this is the new tank (around 100 gallons roughly is my guess from measuring)



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And this is what I want to get. This is the diesel tank, which is opposite where the unused inlets are and presumably where the original water tank was


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Ah sorry. The boat is in London now

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That looks like the original tank. Using the bed as a guide to the size, I would say it's about 430 litres. It also has 2 baffles to prevent sloshing. Unless you really have to use that space for storage, you would do well to leave it alone and spend your money on something else. Smile

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Oct-22-2021 @ 4:53 PM                           Permalink
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Vetus do a range of off the peg water tanks made from rigid linear polythene, they are seamless so nothing to leak. I've had 2 on my boat for about 13 years with no problems. I would highly recommend.

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Don't forget water is heavy!
430 litres of water are the best part of half a tonne which is why water tanks are generally low and flat and not standing on end.
My water tank takes most of the forward area of the cabin but is under the floor and is shaped so that full or empty it doesn't alter the trim of the boat just the level that it sits in the water.
I'd be tempted to leave that tank where it is unless you really have a desparate need to use that space for something else. If that is the case and you want vertical tanks it might be worth having 2 smaller ones one on each side linked together so that you do not list as they empty but then you are doubling up on cost by requiring 2 tanks!

Edit: Before anyone else mentions it diesel is around 4/5 of the weight of water and the useage rate is a lot lower with a tankful often lasting a whole season. I have a standing up diesel tank but that is positioned to counterbalance the engine which is offset from the centre of the boat.



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You may be right, though found loads of clues pointing to it being a retrofit. Like wood used for the 'frame' being newer untreated standard b&q type timber, holes in the bulkheads for running the pipes being done rough and half *rs*d (and the wood not sealed after, so rotten around it) etc.

And then there the water inlets opposite the fuel tank (pic)

That said a lot of it could have been done after and you are right it's original. Probably me o er thinking it. Haha.

Still need.to do something with it if I can as I don't need to 5 births but I'm short in space.

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Ok, I think I may have solved the mistery. The tank is a perfect fit in the room next door where the extra inlets are which was converted to a bathroom, so its looking like you are right and it was the original which was relocated



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