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Hi Adi The drain hole doesn't have a drain hose connection the small amount of water just drips where it falls then evaporates, as to if you fit a silencer or not, if you dont i would allow provision to fit one at a later date in case you need to, i would look up the fitting instruction for Webasto and Eberspacher and be guided by them as to a marine fit the instructions for your one that came with it were possible for a road/caravan fit and not suitable for marine use and pass the BSC, as to noise it may not be noisy during the day but on a remote mooring at night it could well be intrusive. John
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I'm still concerned about this "condensation drain". If it will let water out, it will let exhaust gas out. If it's fitted inside, that's exhaust gas inside the boat. How can that be safe?
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if the condensation drain had a pipe on it, it could be routed to the bilge, if the end is under the bilge water it wouldn't allow exhaust gasses out
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Taken from the webasto installation guide
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Which Webasto model does this installation refer to? I looked up the Air Top Evo 55 installation instructions specifically for marine use and that does not mention condensation drains. It also states that if the exhaust is over 2 metres it should not have a silencer fitted anyway!
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Webasto Installation Instructions Marine heating systems
Air heating:
Air Top 2000ST®
Air Top 3500®
Air Top 5000®
HL 90®
Water heating:
Thermo Top C®
Thermo 90 ST®
DBW 2010, 2016®
Thermo 230, 300, 350®
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If your exhaust runs downwards all the way (mine does), there's no need for a drain. It's all in stainless, so won't be a problem if there's a bit of moisture in there. It won't be there long after you start it, anyway!
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These are the instructions to which ADI refers https://www.butlertechnik.com/downloads/Webasto_Install_Instructions_Marine_heating_systems.pdf
The instructions only relate to the specified Webasto products and include this safety warning:
If you want to install a Webasto® heater system yourself: The installation assumes that you have sufficient technical and craft knowledge and skill. Unskilled installation can endanger life! Before first use, the heating system must be checked by an authorized Webasto® Partner!This is both for your safety and for the safety of third persons.
It seems they only suggest a condensation drain if the length of the exhaust exceeds 2 metres.
I’ve attached a photo of my own installation (an Eberspacher) and there is certainly no drain fitted to the exhaust (the white pipe) and it’s never caused any problem.
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Thanks Pally it's very helpful to see other people's installations, just need to source some appropriate fuel pipe now, I believe it has a safety code on it.
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Either copper or ISO 7840 A1 rubber.
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Tragic, but a timely reminder that diesel fumes can kill - quickly.
https://www.gov.uk/maib-reports/safety-warning-about-carbon-monoxide-poisoning-after-the-loss-of-2-lives-on-the-motor-cruiser-diversion
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