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Some advice please if anyone can help. My boat safety is hopefully being renewed next week but whilst on the boat at the weekend l had a sudden panic about the flexible gas hoses in the gas locker. My boat is a Calypso with two gas bottles in an outside locker at the stern. The two bottles are connected to the regulator with flexible hoses and there is a flexible from the reg. to the bulkhead fitting, from then on it's all copper.These hoses are dated April 03. Should they be changed? If so does anyone know where l can get them from.  

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Bought mine from a caravan shop.

Malcolm

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Aug-13-2013 @ 5:16 PM                           Permalink
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Sorry l meant to say that l have trawled through my copy of "The boat safety scheme guide" and l can only find that "It is recommended that hoses are inspected regularly to check that they are still in good condition"    (7.12)l can find no mention of age.

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Quote below lifted from Insight marine. Basically no actual life is specified for the hoses, though my BSS examiner thought mine were looking past their best so recommended replacement.

These were recommended to me as being very reasonable on price, and I think can make custom hoses:

http://www.stalhamgas.co.uk/parts.html

But typically I needed mine on Saturday afternoon, and bought ready mag=de hoses from Norfolk Marine (who, contrary to one recent post on here, I have always found helpful and competitive).

David

Life expectancy of hoses


There is no mention in BS 3212 of the life expectancy of hoses and it is not a requirement of these Standards that they be replaced after a fixed time. The age of the hose is not a failure point.

The date of manufacture is marked on the hose but this gives no guide to its condition as there is no way to determine when the hose was purchased and installed and it is impossible to know under what conditions it was stored before installation and what usage it has been put to since that date.

The BSS examination therefore requires a careful examination of the physical condition of the hose and its associated fastenings.

BS 5482-3 states that only type 2 hose should be used on boats as it has a higher specification for resistance to pressure, crushing, and permeation than type 1 hose.
http://www.stalhamgas.co.uk/parts.html

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Aug-13-2013 @ 6:52 PM                           Permalink
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Hi Md, I have a Calypso with the same arrangement, it passed its BSS In may. I would follow the examiners advice if he thinks they need changing, not worth chancing it.

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Aug-13-2013 @ 8:21 PM                           Permalink
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Thanks David and Mark, that puts my mind at rest.It was the date business that worried me, l would have felt pretty stupid if the surveyor said they were out of date and l had done nothing about it before the test !!

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Gas Hose is dated by the company that make it . 5years for Black 7years for the  Oronge  Your hose is 17.yrs 3mth. old  . Thats over 10 years over what the makers think is SAFE . I ask one question wuuld you feel SAFE  in a car with 17year old tyres cracks in walls and just legal tread depth at 70mph on the M1 . Frozen  17 times and reheated to 20+ Centigrade  So Please replace them ASAP. My tag line is STAY SAFE. Fred.

Go with the Flow Fred

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Hi Fred, April 03 to Aug 13 is only 10 years and well lets say 4 months, but l take your point better be safe. incidentally how did you know that my car had old bald tyres on?

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I believe the Date  is use Untill  NOT date of manufacture . If you go to caravan shop you can buy of the roll  and see the date on it .I have used LPG. from the age of 19 when I bought a caravan    Fond memorys of GAS MANTELS. .
I am a LPG .Safety Freak  If I see member of crew turn Gas  On  Cooker before lighting match  they get told that LPG is more heavy than air so with a bildge full of Gas we are Helming A BOMB  Stay Safe Fred

Go with the Flow Fred

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This is the best info http://www.calor.co.uk/customer-services/lpg-safety/using-calor-gas-safely/hosing-and-tubing/
5 years life basically

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