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HAS ANTONE FITTED A FORD XLD TO A CARRIBEAN OR A SIMLER CRAFT.
I HAVE AND HAD SOME MAJOR PROBLEMS.
IE OVERHEATING WHEN UNDER LOAD.
THE ENGINE PEOPLE MERMAID MARINE HAVE TOLD ME THAT THEY HAVE FITTED THESE ENGINES ON THE BROADS, BUT I THINK THEY ARE TELLING PORKIES.
SO CAN ANYONE HELP
MANY THANKS ANDY

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Andy,

Is the XLD the transit engine? If so I know a couple of people who have had them fitted without problems.

How long has it been fitted for?

How long has it been overheating?

Did you purchase it after it had been marinised?

Had the engine been standing for a long while before it had been fitted?

Have you checked thermostat, raw water system etc?





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Hi
I have certainly heard about people fitting these engines although I don't know of any at the moment, but the name that was mentioned in connection with these engines is http://www.lancingmarine.com/

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I DONT THINK THAT IT IS BASED ON A TRANSIT ENGINE MORE AN ESCORT/MONDAO.
ITS BEEN FITTED FOR ABOUT 8 MONTHS
THE ENGINE WAS NEW AND WHEN WE FITTED IT THE ENGINEER SAID THAT IT WAS OVER PROPED.
BUT IT WASNT.
WE HAD A PERKINS 4108 BEFORE AND THE TEMP SEAMED OK.
IVE CHECKED ALL THE WATER SYSTEMS.
WHEN OUT OF GEAR IT RUNS COOL, BUT ONCE IN GEAR IT GETS HOT QUICKLY.
I DONT NO WEATHER THE 4108 AND THE XLD ARE LIKE FOR LIKE BUT SOMTHING IS A MISS SOMEWHERE.
HOPE YOU CAN HELP
ANDY


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Andy,

When you say it runs hot, how hot? Most new engines do run a bit hotter than older design they also get to working temperature much quicker.

You could try pulling the thermostat out and take it for a run with it out to see what happens.

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paul
it gets very hot it gets to 100 105 then i have to slow the reves down to get to 95.
also the alarm goes off.
which is all part of the engine loom.
but when i decrease the torque with the control valve on the hydrulics it gets cool but then i loose performance.  
when its out of gear more water comes out of the
exhaust.
  

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Andy,

Have you checked the gearbox intercooler? I have seen these become blocked and not allow the raw water through to the exhaust. Which allows the engine to run fine at lower rpm and quite normal temps, but once under load the problems start. The blockage is normally weed build up.  

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i have two filter  one normal and one fine
but i will check it out and let you no.
many thanks for your time paul

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we have a ford xld 1.6 fitted to our boat when we bought it I bought the engine from the local breakers yard and marinised it ourselves and fitted it to the original gearbox, we have had no trouble with overheating. ours seems to run at about 180deg F as Dr Deisel has said I would check the impeler as these have been known to fail and you might find the bits blocking the oil cooler which will cause your overheating problem.
Hopes this helps Robin.

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quote:"......
when its out of gear more water comes out of the exhaust.
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That worries me a bit, do you mean that more water comes out of low revs because out of gear you are not giving it high revs?  Asuming the intake is constant or increasing when opening up where is it going?

Were it a shaft drive I would have said check the exhaust system for leaks which might be causeing back pressure and maybe dumping some water into the bilge. With a tail end mounted engine this is not likely.

It could be that the raw water pump is too small for the engine and under load some of the water is turning to steam of course which is why there appears to less water. Do you have Vetus type weed filters? Somethings these leak and depending on the pipework which needs to go up and down on some of those installations they can draw in air.

Is the header tank emptying or does it always seem full despite the overly hot engine? Was the heat exchanger new? If you want to check whether the sealed system is leaking into the exhaust simply pour a bottle of red vegetable dye into the filler on the header tank and see if any comes out of the exhaust

Midshipman having removed float "But dad you TOLD me to leave the key in the water filler!!!"  Bill...

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