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Jun-08-2012 @ 3:01 PM                           Permalink
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JohnS1959 @ £1-16 ltr in Boulters your not paying roadside prices, as I said look around.

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WR, your figures have confirmed what Darren at DRL said last week. None of us like paying so much for our fuel, whether for cars or boats, but it's obvious that the Government is taking the lion's share of the income. I think the the 60/40 split was just to keep us all quiet. I certainly don't use 40% of my boat fuel for heating, but I'm happy to pay a reduced sum per litre for my boating diesel.

I'm just hoping the yards don't give up the ghost and stop selling to private boaters. Not only will it cause great inconvenience, having to lug cans of diesel around, but the potential for pollution through spillage while filling tanks from cans is enormous.

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But the yards don't have to sell at 40/60 split. If they want to they can let you decide.

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Jun-08-2012 @ 9:25 PM                           Permalink
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Although I've declared a 60/40 split at the yards I currently buy fuel for the engine I'm paying £1.30 a litre
as a comparison the fuel I buy from the Coalman for heating (zero duty) is 90p per litre.

Many Thanks Tim

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Tim, heating oil for domestic and residential use is not zero-rated, it is taxed at 5% and the difference in the scale of operation between your heating oil supplier and a boatyard is massive. As WhisperingReeds has said, he expects to sell about 1500 litres a year to customers (other than the day boats). OK, so he isn’t in exactly the busiest place on the Broads, but the heating oil suppliers send out tanker-loads every day (Mon-Fri), every week, and the minimum order in the Broads area is 500 litres. Those tankers probably hold around 8-10,000 litres. Ask your coalman if he will deliver 50 litres of oil to your boat and see what response you get. Or you could just syphon it out of your home heating oil tank and cart it up to your boat  tounge-in-cheek

Even if the yards were making 10p profit per litre, that’s hardly profiteering. They have bills to pay and mouths to feed. I was in a chandlery in Ely today and, as an example, a common consumable product which retails on the Broads for £15.99 was priced at £18.99. Caveat emptor.


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If it looks like red diesel, smells like red diesel and burns like red diesel and only costs .80p a litre then it is red diesel regardless of the so called 60/40 split, and regardless where you buy it.  Cheers

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I'm not sure why a 3-year old thread has been resurrected, but 'red diesel' is purely a description of a product. It's the use to which that product is put which determines the level of tax to be paid.

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Blimey, not this old one again! This has been done to death. Question

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The following post was made in the Diesel Price thread. It was removed by myself to keep that thread easy to read...

From member avg45 on 25/01/16...

"On Sky news yesterday (Sunday 24th) it was reported that the retail price of diesel has gone down in price
by 55% since May last year. I do not expect the yards or Marina's to drop their prices by this much, but as Tesco's and other garages are selling white for  under a £1.00 a litre it does make one wonder if we are still being ripped of as I suggested in a post about a year or two ago and was shouted down. The price of diesel has consistently dropped over that period of time but the yards and Marina's are very slow to follow  suit with the exception of just a couple of yards. "


Member ADI replied the same day...

The yards might have bought it at a higher rate while the price was high, so would have to sell it high maybe?


John

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When Tesco dig a dyke from Stalham Staithe to their pumps at their store, I might consider filling my 200 litre tank there. On reflection, no I wouldn't, because I respect my engine too much    tounge-in-cheek

I'm happy to support yards that charge a reasonable price for the supply of diesel, without taking the proverbial, as certain yards appear to do. Caveat emptor.

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