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Hylander
Jul-11-2017 @ 7:01 AM                           Permalink
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Am I incorrect in assuming that all hire boats now have a no smoking policy on the inside of the boat.

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Jul-11-2017 @ 8:53 AM                           Permalink
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Yes, you are incorrect. I've just phoned Richardson's to ask. The reply I got was that, while they ask hirers not to smoke inside the boat, they cannot enforce it.

"..for the avoidance of any doubt, the broads are not legally a national park and do not come under the national park legislation, and nor will they."
Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State for DEFRA (Hansard 2015)

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I am pretty sure that no smoking on board a hire boat is the general policy for all.  Certainly all the boats I have been on over the past few years have signs stating no smoking on board.  Gone are the days when you would find a Blakes ash tray on board.

I stand corrected  Smile

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Having watched a video recently of someone smoking in bed I was horrified.   Can you imagine the stench of that bedding for the next poor hirer.   Smoking should be banned completely unless a cigarette is smoke outside.     Some years ago my elderly sister who has smoked since Adam was a lad and I had to attend at the hospital.    Whilst hanging about she said to me , it is no good I need a fag, so outside we went.   She promptly lit up and all of a sudden a loud speaker bellowed at us two olduns - THIS IS A NO SMOKING AREA EXTINGUISH THAT CIGARETTE NOW.  I can tell you we ran up the road like a couple of naughty school children.



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While the hire yards might prefer people not to smoke in their boats, there is no legislation to enforce that policy. As I was told by Richardson's, once the boat is out on the water they have little or no control on what happens.

Even the legislation that probibits smoking in a vehicle containing a person under the age of 18yrs exempts caravans when they are being used as living accommodation.

"..for the avoidance of any doubt, the broads are not legally a national park and do not come under the national park legislation, and nor will they."
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One of those rules then... Smile

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A friend of mine stopped at the Hotel Wroxham as he checked his bill he found that he had been fined £60.00 for smoking (on the balcony)


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He got off lightly. This is from the Hotel Wroxham's booking conditions:

"SMOKING
Hotel Wroxham is a non-smoking establishment. Smoking is not allowed in the rooms or on the balcony. Smoking is only permitted in designated smoking areas and any guest found to be smoking may be asked to leave the premises and may be charged for any cleaning costs incurred (£100)."


"..for the avoidance of any doubt, the broads are not legally a national park and do not come under the national park legislation, and nor will they."
Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State for DEFRA (Hansard 2015)

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Pally could not a hire boat come under the same clasification as say a works van or car that can be used by more than one person or as a workplace, as cleaners and mechanics have to work on the boat when it is returned?
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TT, someone else may know better, but my understanding is that the smoking prohibitions that relate to premises and vehicles do not include boats. There was a discussion document put out a few years ago, Merchant Shipping (Prohibition of Smoking on Ships) Regulations 2009, but I can find nothing to say that it was ever passed into law. In any case, pleasure vessels were exempted from it.

"..for the avoidance of any doubt, the broads are not legally a national park and do not come under the national park legislation, and nor will they."
Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State for DEFRA (Hansard 2015)


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