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Hi  good luck with your search.

A factor worth bearing in mind is that we have had a few very mild winters recently and to some extent have been lulled into forgetting what winter can be like.

Up until quite recently more hire yards sent boats out throughout the year but a series of bad years caused s major rethink.

Floods mean boats can't move, ice means boats can't move both  creating disgruntled customers. Both are also dangerous conditions which means a hike in the hire yard insurance premiums , not to mention water systems bursting and engines seizing both requiring call out in unfavourable conditions.

Finally river heights alter which means many boats got stuck the wrong side of bridges they would normally get through with ease.

I am pretty certain the yacht stations and the bridge pilots also shut down for the winter but I might be imagining that.

The yards would also have to stay staffed  open to allow the reciprocal mooring arrangement to operate when the chances are very few boats are actually on the water.

Like you I enjoy the winter months  but I wouldn't fancy spending my whole week in minus five conditions and not being able to move .

Have fun

Graham

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Nov-24-2015 @ 4:44 PM                           Permalink
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The Met Office are also forecasting a severe winter, maybe the worse for several years with temperatures down to - possibly - minus 15oC.
It's all down to a dramatic increase in the effects of El Niño.

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Nov-24-2015 @ 7:47 PM                           Permalink
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Ok thankyou for the insight,  looks like ill have to wait untill spring.  

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Nov-25-2015 @ 2:24 AM                           Permalink
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" The Met Office are also forecasting a severe winter, maybe the worse for several years with temperatures down to - possibly - minus 15oC.
It's all down to a dramatic increase in the effects of El Niño. "

Given their past record in longer term forecasts (non appearing BBQ summers and the like) I would not base my decision on the Met Office rune reading.


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Nov-25-2015 @ 7:44 AM                           Permalink
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Me neither. I'm sure Faircraft Loynes would hire to you. Why not ring them and have a chat about it. You've nothing to lose.

HB

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Nov-25-2015 @ 10:09 AM                           Permalink
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Have we not had bad winters forecast for the last few years though?


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Indeed.

However I think it would be a brave hire company which assumes these mild winters are going to stay.

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Nov-25-2015 @ 11:27 AM                           Permalink
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Maybe brave is one way of putting it.

But realistically, if the hirer was briefed, and followed instructions, would there really be a big problem?

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Nov-25-2015 @ 12:27 PM                           Permalink
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No.

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Nov-25-2015 @ 12:34 PM                           Permalink
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I think the thing is in the past there were big problems. Hire boats of ten or twenty  years ago were not built with much insulation and it is quite easy for water systems to freeze and burst when it never gets above minus five or the like.

It was only four  years ago that Norfolk saw its first snow in November and it did not disappear until March.

Not sure it ever got much above freezing during that time.

For it to be practical think the boats would need to be built to a winter spec and hirers would also need to be prepared to convert to a houseboat holiday if the water flows became too dangerous

Grahsm

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There are three issues that I can see.

1. Domestic water freezing
2. Engine cooling system freezing
3. Frozen waterways.

Could 1 & 2 be addressed by lagging and heating on the boat?

Frozen waterways, depending how bad mean boats can't move.

Like I said above, common sense and good instruction surely could address issues.

Since there is less demand during winter, only some boats need a winter spec do they not?

One of the things I like is early morning cruising when you have the river almost to yourself. I imagine the Broads in winter are like that all the time with even better scenery.


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