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Why assume that dredging has an impact at the precise time it is done? Once you stir up the silt, the ramifications can occur over a period of years when condition are right for an Algae bloom.

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And with respect, why assume that dredging which hasn't been carried out could be responsible....?

I've no idea what might have caused this dreadful event, but am content to let others who actually know about cause/effect carry out their investigations.  I don't understand why every time there's an event like this it brings out all the "it must be their fault....no it's somebody else's fault" brigade..... all very tedious and solves nothing.

Meantime the fish appear to be paying the price, regardless of how it happened.  That's a tragedy for everyone, whether angler or sailor or walker....



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It would appear that Hickling Broad has many problems, some man made like cutting drainage so deep Ochre is exposed, some natural like salt water ingress. Surely the best approach has to be to increase the ratio of volume of water to surface area like the Barton Broad scheme.
If you leave it alone it will die because all around it will still pump animal waste etc into it. Fish succumbing to lack of oxygen is fairly low down the scale or only the start of a body of water dying, there follows Avian botulism and damage to human health and domestic and wild mammals as well. Not wishing to correct a silting up lake is either being selfish in the short term, not seeing the bigger picture or doing an Ostrich.

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Agree with you on this, if Hickling Broad is to be saved for Boaters, Fishing, Conservationists etc. there is going to have to be some short term pain otherwise nobody will be the winner here.

The sooner some work goes ahead the better or it will be goodbye Hickling Broad.

Ken

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I'm pretty sure that most people agree with you CaptB but it is how and where the silt is disposed of, building an Island using the waste from dredging an area that a/ had a history of Algea blooms and b/ had been used as a settling pond for sewerage was at the best unwise and at the worst ecological vandalism. It may also help if a way was found to make it more accesable to a more varied range of craft after all we all pay our tolls which are the source of the funding that pays for the dredging.

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Thank goodness the dredging had not started. That would have given those anglers (a proper minority) that are trying to claim the upper Thurne exclusively for themselves another chance to spout their usual nonsense.
The last bloom coincided with dredging yonks away from the bloom but still they tried to claim some dubious connection.
The only very slight upside of this terrible event is that nonsense can be nailed for good. There is no dredging and IF this is a PP occurrence that separates once and for all those two events.

Truth is that the area needs some major works for the benefit of all users and a damn good removal of vast amounts of silt would be a good start.

TT. As has been stated many times before the upper Thurne is available to all that wish to go there. There is no exclusivity and anyone can enjoy the special nature of this unique part of the system. Toll payer or not.


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Well said Exlie - that says it all!!!

As you and all others know the BA are at preliminary stages of discussion over Hickling but we shall have to see if anything ever comes of it. The biggest issue will concern money and approval of all surrounding land owners - will either be available???

But one thing I can guarantee is that minority groups will fight it long and hard and at the same time point a finger again when we do have PP occurences

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Exile, it is a proven fact that the levels under Potter Bridge have been reducing year on year and many craft that could access that area even a few years ago now can't, why is Toll payers money which is supposed to be used to maintain Navigation not being used to at least maintain the access which was historically there?
MM I clearly Stated that dredging was SUPPOSED to have started on the 16th.
As for dredging last year, I will recheck.

Dave

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Double post due to impatience

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TT,
Many think the answer to difficulties in some boats getting through the bridge is the requirement for dredging in the lower Bure.
In fact a programme of dredging all the way from the upper Thurne to the sea may well help navigation in every aspect.
Imagine the fuss that would cause amongst SOME in the angling fraternity when they kick off so avidly about mere imaginary dredging on Hickling.



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