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Anyone getting cold feet?

I have an Eberspacher diesel-powered warm air cabin heater surplus to requirements, ideal for boaty installation. It is the later type which doesn't shut-down completely when the room temperature is reached, but continues to run at slow tickover. The earlier models were famous for flattening batteries and burning-out glowplugs because they shut-down once the desired cabin temperature was achieved and then had to repeatedly power-up from stand-by each time the temp fell. Firing-up from stand-by is the main electrical drain so by running constantly most of the heavy battery drain is avoided. As a guide they use 20+ amps at fire-up but only 1 amp in constant running at low fan speed.

Model:  D1LC Compact
Fuel:  Diesel
Rated Voltage: 12v  (Range = 10v - 14v)
Heat Output:
   High = 1800W
   Med = 1200W
   Low =  850W
       (Or it will circulate cool air on those rare tropical evenings).

The unit is about 10 years old but has been sitting in a box in my garage for about 6 years. It was formerly installed in a 1999 motorhome and was working perfectly prior to removal. The intention was to install it in our diesel-engined boat, but as we sold it three years ago I'm not likely to get around to doing the job now!

Unfortunately the kit was removed hastily from the motorhome so the plastic fuel pipe was cut, but I think these have to be replaced with copper pipe for BSS anyway. (Trucks carrying dangerous chemicals don't have to have copper, they have the original Eberspacher plastic pipe which doesn't work-harden and crack... but that's enough about the BSS!)

The very helpful person who removed the heater from the motorhome left behind the electric control unit, but bits for these heaters seem to be plentiful on eBay. I have been told (by a technician who installs and services these units in trucks) that it is possible to run the unit without the control box and I've been shown how to bypass it, but I'm not sure this is to be recommended. Apparently the main function of the control box is to shut-down the heater if the supply voltage goes too high (which it might if you run the boat engine and have an electronic charge controller in use) or too low (which it won't unless you suffer a seriously flat battery). If you did intend to try the unit on the bench without the control box, everything needed is present.

Metering fuel pump is included. Rotary control switch is included (Settings: COLD << OFF >> 1 > 2 > 3 > 4).
Short wiring loom is present, easy to make an extension to fit your installation.
Short stainless steel exhaust outlet pipe is present (standard through-floor fitting for vans and motorhomes, longer flexible pipes are usually on ebay if needed).

Obviously some understanding of electrical safety and the Boat Safety Scheme, along with a reasonable DIY capability, are needed to install this unit in a BSS certificated boat.

I have a copy of the manufacturer's installation instructions and wiring diagrams. There's also an interesting and helpful thread here:-

EBERSPACHER TOPIC

Send me a PM if you want to discuss. I think these kits are the lion's share of £1,000 brand new, the used ones removed from old BT vans seem to sell somewhere between £150 - £300 on eBay but you'll get a better bargain if you catch me before I have time to photograph it and list it for auction!

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C O R R E C T I O N !!

I have been advised by someone more knowledgeable. I have checked what I've been told and it's true.

The electronic control unit is not missing - it is integral within the main heater assembly. The difference is that the D1LC model would have an external box of tricks, but this is the D1LC COMPACT which has it all contained within the heater body.

So, other than the correct length/type of pipes and wiring to suit your installation, this kit is complete.

Sorry, I had previously been provided with the incorrect info sheet.

The correct techinical info sheet for the COMPACT model confirms it. It is online at:-

http://www.eberspacher.com/downloads/technical-documents/airB1LC+D1LC_technical.pdf

If I can find the time and a cupfull of diesel fuel I'll try to have the kit rigged-up for bench demonstration.

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That also explains why the heater has four heat output settings, not three.

4 = 2200W
3 = 1800W
2 = 1200W
1 =  850W

Hot enough to melt yer Spangles, then.

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To eliminate any doubts I'm going to try to make time over the weekend to rig-up the heater for a test run. Time is a bit of a problem at the moment as we have a family member in hospital 120 miles away and we have to be there when she's released, which could be any day now.
Will see what I can do...
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So is this on ebay yet or do you want to give a clue to how much you want for it?
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No Paul, it isn't on eBay. Better it has a test run first so that we know exactly what we're dealing with. The last thing I would want is for a forumite to buy it and later discover that it wasn't exactly as promised.
I'll pop the test result on here as soon as I've hooked it up and run it, hopefully over the weekend.

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We now have the warmest garden in Norfolk.

The heater has been run on a Heath-Robinson test rig over a 2-hour period this morning. I've run it at various room temperature settings and have pointed the wife's hairdryer into the air intake to make it think that the room is warm enough - it drops to tick-over speed, as it should. Take away the hairdryer and it builds up again in an attempt to heat East Anglia. I've switched it off and restarted it several times, it always fires-up in the correct sequence and always goes through the cooling-down procedure when switched off.

In the whole test sequence, including almost a full hour running close to the maximum setting, it has used about a cupful of fuel.

I'll leave it set up on the test rig for a couple of days in case anyone wants to see it running.

We are about a mile from Hoveton/Wroxham, PM if you want to come over and I'll reply with phone numbers, or just send me your number and I'll call you. We're at home Saturday + Sunday + Monday but then uncertain from Tuesday onwards, we will have to dash off the moment the hospital wants to eject Mother-in-Law.

Must be a gift at £120?

Jerry

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That has got to be a steal.

Could I provisionally reserve it for NCSL until he gets back to his pooter?

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SOLD !!!!!

Just spoken to NCSL and he says yes please.

Please send him a PM with your address / tel number etc and when he gets back ashore he will be in touch.

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Thanks Griff - I thought that might make him jump!

Perfectly happy to take NCSL at his word, I mean, it's not like he's anonymous! Sending PM now.

Jerry

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