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al_b40
Dec-03-2006 @ 11:44 AM                           Permalink
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Can anyone identify my boat?

She was sold to me as a 'Robinson Classic Cruiser' being one of two built for the MOD - but i do not believe she ever had anything to do with the MOD.

My findings point more to her being a fast broads cruiser, prehaps build by Jack Powles of Wroxham - she has similar lines to some of their fiberglass boats, but this is pure guesswork.

Shes built from Ply down to the waterline, then has a conventional carvel built bottom. I dont know why wood was used here. Shes sheathed in epoxy from just above the waterline down. On the top, she has leaky teak decks, and a varnished wooden cabin side. I replaces most of the cabin top in ply over the summer, and epoxy sheated that to protect, waterproof and give a nice finish.

She powered by two perkins T6354 engines, with direct drive gears, and V drives which give a 1.5:1 final drive. This can get her to 18knots on a good day.

Further work to complete - Damaged sterngear was replaced last year, but she still requires a new rudder on the starboard side as its got a slight kink in it. The rudder shaft log also appears to be suffering from rot, so that will need replacing. Im hoping that work be too difficult to do. I start sheathing the decks in epoxy, so this will be continued. It is at least, now watertight for the winder apart from a couple of minor leaks which have been difficult to trace. The wheelhouse roof will also be replaced next year to complete work on the topside.

Thats about it really. Another wooden boat being saved

Lots of Pictures on my album here: http://s43.photobucket.com/albums/e390/al_b40/

Hopefully, someone may know something about her.

Many thanks

Alex


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Dec-03-2006 @ 3:31 PM                           Permalink
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I am not sure why you should link this boat to Powles, the use of ply is most unlikely. To be honest I am not sure that I can see any link to the Norfolk Broads, the solent maybe perhaps?

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Dec-03-2006 @ 3:43 PM                           Permalink
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Was there not a Robinson's down at Woodbridge?
She has a ring of a Brook Marine Ocean Pirate about her, John Perryman, naval architect, maybe. Certainly a nice looking boat, but doubt that she's a Broads boat. Suggestion of a feint reverse sheer might suggest MOD but I doubt it.

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Hi Alex.
Welcome to the site,hope you get some answers mate.
She seems to be much to fast amd powerfull to be a Broads cruiser by design to my way of thinking.
Super project though.
18 knots was she used for smuggling in the old days. Smile

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Dec-03-2006 @ 8:03 PM                           Permalink
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My link to the broads is really quite a guess on my part. The general superstructure style and part fit out in formica rang broads builders in my head, but as I said its purely guesswork and posting here seemed a logical one to pick everyones brains.

With her 18 knots top speed, and lack of being able to go any slower than 4 knots, I do completely doubt she is designed for any kind of inland cruiser, but going out off the coast of Gt Yarmouth for example would be entirely possible. Some of the bigger Brooms are examples that would fall into this category for me. She has resided on the Medway in kent for at least the last 10 years for certain, and probably more, so she has had some inland use here, as her airdraft is relatively low.

As to her use for smuggling, I have failed to find any stashes of drink tabacco etc.  that could be sold for a profit so I might discount its use for this!  Smile

Its entirely possible she may come from the solent, but as far as I can see, she could come from anywhere really!

Thanks the the replies so far, brings a few more leads to investigate! Anyone else with any inclin, please give details. Each little bit may help solve the mystery!

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Dec-03-2006 @ 8:09 PM                           Permalink
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She was built by Robinsons on Oulton Broad, and was due to be a fast patrol boat for the Military - however the order was cancelled and they were both turned into private yachts - the other one had a small Turbo fire which ended her life as far as I can recall from memory, and I have to say am very envious of you as I have always wanted your boat! She was they one for sale down on the medway was she not?

Chris

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Dec-03-2006 @ 8:37 PM                           Permalink
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Indeed she was the one for sale down on the medway.

What information do you have (if any) on this builder. I would be intregued to find out more.

EDIT - on further searching, I have found this craft which is extremely similar, but appears to be slightly shorter than mine http://www.horning.org.uk/imggallery.php?style=BKes

This message was edited by al_b40 on Dec-3-06 @ 8:20 PM

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Dec-07-2006 @ 12:11 AM                           Permalink
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al-b40

your craft certainly does look very reminiscent of the Robinson 33 on my web-site - I know of 2 which were in the hire fleets in late 60s to early 70s, but as you say yours looks bigger - I will agree with Chris about the yard, although he has more info than I did.

If you are proposing to bring her on to the Broads, I'd very much like the details of name/reg. etc. for the database

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Craig
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Dec-08-2006 @ 11:01 AM                           Permalink
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Hi Craig.

She wont be comming to the broads unfortunately. I will be staying in the Medway / Thames Estuary, although I would hope to be able to cruise round to the broads for a visit over the next few years, depending on how things go getting her repaired and looking good.

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Your Cruiser was indeed built L.A.Robinson of Oulton Broad in the early 60s.She was one of a class known as " Riviera class".Not many were built and the yard ceased trading in about 1968.The Riviera was very similar to the Kestrel class one of which I owned from 1970 til 1990.
Both the Kestrel and Riviera class were rear engined thru V drives but the Kestrel Class (of which only 3 were built) were single screw for inland waters.Some of the boats were planked with Iroko on oak and some had ply hull sides. My boat was planked one Kestrel was ply and one was ply one side and planked the other!
I thought the Rivieras were all planked but you obviously know different.
The reason for the use of ply was because Robinsons were running out of money and needed to get the boats on the water.
I can tellyou that Robinsons had excellent tradesmen and their boats were very well built.
Best of luck with restoration


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