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jamesbagnall
Sep-05-2005 @ 10:57 PM                           Permalink
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Perhaps a silly and obvious question....

But, whilst looking at the history of various boats recently, many websites (such as the Elysian register) talk about 'those remaining of the class'.

Do GRP cruisers, such as a Hampton Safari or Elysian, or any of the older GRP hirecraft, have a 'life expecancy' and what happens to life expired craft?

Surely, with a GRP Hull, if reasonably looked after they just about always have a value (even if very poor state) and are worth doing up.

Therefore, I suppose my question is, how does one dispose of a GRP Hull if it is life expired and what point is a Hull considered to be in this state?

Just wondering.....

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James.


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Sep-05-2005 @ 11:45 PM                           Permalink
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Hi James,

No, quite a good question actually !

It's something that I often wonder about. Despite the dreaded 'osmosis' fears, fibreglass boats are not 'biodegradeable', so cannot disappear without expensive 'crunching up', and even more expensive disposal. (as the base material is presumably absolutely useless for any recyclcling purpose.)

With the exception of a few sad looking individual craft discarded at derelect moorings, I've never seen a 'breakers yard' for fibreglass boats. So where do they go ?  (Unlike wooden boats, where for example, there is a huge area next to Martham Boats shed, with dozens of old wooden boats returning to nature...)

Your mention of 'time expired' and 'life expectancy' is also interesting, since unlike cars, F/G boats do not rust away, so are almost always restorable by someone with the inclination....    Smile


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Sep-05-2005 @ 12:46 AM                           Permalink
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Can't say if it happens with GRP used in boats but there is a recycle programme for GRP which turns it in to subsurface for roads, along with many other crunched waste products.

Non biodegradable substances are so expensive to send to landfill nowadays that previously "expensive" recycle options are becoming more viable.

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Sep-06-2005 @ 8:51 AM                           Permalink
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Eventually GRP does give up the ghost, basically the problem is that all the strength is in the ‘lay-up’ and once the resin and mat separate there’s nothing left to hold things together. The other thing that can happen is that any wood formers can get their sheathing cracked with the result that they get wet and rot from the inside.

GRP boats cannot be burnt because they give off toxic fumes so they tend to be stripped out and chopped up.  In many cases the bits tend to be used to backfill quay heading and the like.  Whilst windows, fittings and running gear may be recoverable the rest has little value.

There have been various ‘Graveyards’ notablely at Stokesby St. Olaves and Stalham but given the value of space on a yard, bodies  don’t  last that long.  


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Sep-06-2005 @ 12:01 PM                           Permalink
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hi james i guess one answer maybe line azzuro at great yarmouth,( sorry couldn't help my self) Playful

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Sep-06-2005 @ 12:39 PM                           Permalink
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Matty

Ouch!!!!, but funny.  Scared  Wink  Smile  Cheers

Tim

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This is old......but thought I would reply.
Back in the late 80's, the GRP hull was thought to have a 50 year life span.....clearly this is going to be exceeded by many boats....

I did cut up a SeaMaster 25 a few years ago, the hull had severe osmosis, when trying to 'grind out' the really big blisters, massive holes were appearing right though !!! there was simly no good GRP left, it was just 'mush'......so the boast was cut up into 1 metre sections and taken away as industrial waste.

I still have the original port holes sometimes found on SeatMaster 25's if enybody wants them ?
GaV

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A lot of Broads boats have gone over to Ireland... Not so much to die, but to start a second life. I never cease to be amazed at the number of Aquafibres in that I see on Apolloduck. Often in the pictures the boats are surrounded by other boats which started life here in Norfolk.

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I know a lot of Elysian also went to France, and never came back.........must be the weather !

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Some years ago I drove down Cess Rd Martham and there were quite a number of assorted wrecks there made of assorted materials.Dont know who owned them or why they held on to them.Les
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