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Hi,

I've been to visit her for only the second time today & had a quick look around.
I understood that she is of the Broadland Swan class, but not necessarily named "Broadland Swan".

The engine was replaced last year with a BMC Diesel, I've no idea what happened to the original Lister, but it may be around the moorings somewhere, I will have to enquire.

She was sold to me & is moored as 32.5 feet in length, although I've not actually measured her.
She has "Swan" written in on the bottom of four drawers, which as you say, may mean nothing at all.
The previous owner told me she was built around 1969, although he seemed to know even less about her than me.

All of the glass has been removed & replaced with ill fitting, very scratched "Plexiglass". I will be removing it all and probably install laminated glass.

I have discovered that one of her previous owners, who apparently sailed her from the Broads to Canvey Island, still lives near the mooring and would be fairly easy to contact. Today I was told that when she first arrived she was beautiful & appeared to be in good condition.
She's had a number of owners over the last few years and has not been regularly maintained.

All roof surfaces have been covered in what looks like zinc sheeting, this will eventually be removed with a view to replanking as I suspect they were covered up due to leaks, there's bound to be problems under there.

In fact most of the work that has been done on her is less than satifactory, covering up rather than repairing, replacing or restoring.

Why do people own boats just to let them rot away?

Thanks for the information on possible identity marks, I will indeed be looking for any signs of them when I sand the hull.
Is there anywhere I could obtain copies of the original specifications & plans?

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Hi David,

Please excuse the contradictory previous posts as the information was as supplied by the previous owner.

Following your advise I have been to my boat again today and lifted all the floor panels & checked the bottoms of all the drawers & bunks. She has "Swan" written on the underside of a floor panel, but W891 is just about everywhere I looked.

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Interestingly "Bittern" is written on the bottom of one drawer. Maybe the boatyard at Marsham would like it back in exchange for mine if they have it.

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hi rob, i live just down the road from your moorings and have seen your boat many a time. expilots boat is a fantastic example of this class and have seen her many times up at potter.i like many others on this site wish you well with your massive project... keep us posted with your progress.andy

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Hi Rob

Its good to see that there are still some brave men around!
However, after recently seeing first hand the quality of Broadland Swift
this will be a great boat to restore. They are so solid compared to
similar boats built during the same era. Also they just glide through
the water, and would give the latest GRP 'low wash hull' a run for its
money!  

If you did ever consider a boatyard carrying out a 'full restoration' we
would be very interested in quoting however, looking at the photo i
guess some lottery funding may be needed! Unfortunately I also don't
think we can book any major jobs in until Oct 2011!

My main boatbuilder enjoyed every second working on Broadland Swift
because these are the types of boats he built...... many, many years
ago! He also gets very bored & grumpy if he has to work on modern
boats!!! So I have to keep feeding him old boats, latest one to arrive
yesterday was built in 1906!! The Horace & Hannah, we also have
Harrier which is 1900's (we think)

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They say that 'Hard work never killed anyone' however, sleepless nights, stress, not taking breaks & not eating correctly may just get you there early!!

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hi rob look on horning org go on to search boat database its on there cheers best of luck Smile

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I wish you well
Finding W891 on most drawers does indicate she was Broadland Swan.

There is a chance of bulk head numbers but maybe she is 'too  young'

I had holidays on Kittiwake, Tern, Tern and finally Teal. Great fun
Liz

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Thanks for your messages of support, I've sent photos to Chris at Hornings, maybe he'll update his records, if he doesn't mind having a wreck on display.

Further to my earlier posts it seems the boatyard is rather nervous about lifting her out as she appears so fragile, which means I'll have to carry out some repairs/replanking whilst she's sat on the mud or find a way to temporarily reinforce her for the lift.

Having explained how "important" she is their wooden boat specialist is going to inspect her. He will advise on the best way forward, as they agree that she should be taken off that mud as soon as possible. She does float and is taking very little water, most of the damage being above the water line.

I could actually dig under her to access the rudder as the top few inches is visible above the mud.
Building a small pontoon to work off would be a fairly easy task, a few old tyres and some scaffold planks would prevent me sinking up to my neck in the mud.

I realise that she is a long term project & will be expensive to restore, but spread over an extended  period of time I'm hoping it won't be too painful.

The photo below may be of interest..


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Sensible you realise that this is going to be a long term project. Our restoration of 'B.A' was an 18 x month project that took 5 1/2 years (And we still have a few outstanding items to address), have a look under the 'Project's section - 'R641 Star Supreme I Restoration'

Maybe you could start a running log with photo's in there for us lot to follow and offer advice when asked etc.

One thing I learnt when lifting old wodden boats is the importance of having the spreader bars wide enough so as to minimise the pressure of the strops on the sides of the hull and crushing the boat. During our re-launch the crane at Wayford - the bars were not whide enough imho and caused some light cosmetic damage due to excess pressure on the rubbing strips at deck level. We now have her pulled out on a cradle supported by strops that keep only light contact on the sides, we are due out this September and will use this system once more if LBBY cannot accomodate us.  Your expert will be able to advise and maybe some temporary cross bracing for the lift will be the order of the day, that is asuming the hog is sound etc.

I wish you all the best. Big respect to you for taking it on, that is one important historical boat with regards to the Broads you have there.


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We too are nearly three years into an eighteen month restoration of Star Premiere. The Ripple Craft boats have long been on my wish list but will have to be a lottery win. I wish you good luck. LBBY still slip boats into their shed which of course much more friendly to wooden boats than slings.There are not many large slips left on the Broads now I think.

Barry

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Hello I’m very interested in thesevboats as I’m running a piece on my group called Life on and around the beautiful Norfolk Broads,we have the member who has Broadland grebe,and Belaugh boats are allowing me to use lapwing for my profile picture,but I’m very fascinated about these boats,how the design came about and everything,I have a messenger page under David banks,I’m trying to keep. The wooden boats Alice and I’ve just found photos of Broadland swan could you or would you post the information about these wonderful boats . I wait to hear from you.

David4u

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